Black Swan review

[pitbull]

I have been wanting a black swan for years but never had the cash then I saw Vermonster's ad and the price he had on them and I bought one finally. Wish I would have made that purchase a long time ago. I got the med. high grip with the hybrid limbs, 3 pc. take-down.

I have had tendonitis surgery on both elbows and have not been able to shoot a longbow  because the shock starts to irritate it again. I have had to stay with recurves due to less irrittion. I have tried many longbows that claim to have zero shock and all have failed until now.

The Black Swan is quick, quiet, and accurate with zero shock! I think the extra heft of the riser absorbs any vibration and the grip being on the small side and the way it is designed is torque free. If you have smaller hands this is one of the few bows that you can let float in your hand instead of gripping it. The bow is incredibly easy to tune, had it done within a half hour of opening the box.

 I can't wait to get a few weeks in shooting this bow to see the full potential. I am extatic that I have finally found a longbow that I can shoot without causing me pain.

[vtmtnman]

I've shot many of the Swans.They're great bows,glad you're enjoying yours.I can't wait to try out a high wrist grip and some recurve limbs.  

[twotimer]

i am pleased to see this post.i also had been looking at the swans for some time,wanting to try one.i have a right hand high wrist coming tomorow with a set of 42# recurve limbs.i have been having left shoulder problems,had it reconstructed in 86,have been shooting lefty a lot lately,any ways i will post an update here in a day or so on how this thing performs.i have owned or shot most of the bows out there in the last 10 years,hope this is "THE ONE"regards,robert          

[vermonster13]

You should have your bow Monday Robert.

[twotimer]

can hardly wait,that i'm excited is an understatement.thanks,robert  

[twotimer]

pitbull,i agree with you 100%.my swan came this afternoon about 3.30 pm.had some honey-do's to get done,so took me about 2 hours getting ready to fling a few.i got the med.high grip with the recurve limbs,60",i put a string nock on at 5/8s and braced it at 7 5/8s,grabed,3 2112 x7s cut 28 1/4",3 1914 x7s cut 28",3 arrow dyn.trad lites cut 29",and 3 2012s cut 28 1/2",all with 125 grain tips,went out to my bag target,stoped at about 12 yards and shot a perfect x on an nfaa 5 spot target,center bull,thought what a fluke,turned another loose and saw some fletching flutter to the ground,backed up to 22 yards,shot the other 10 arrows,busted a couple of nocks,and rattled some arrows,shot a good 12 arrow 5" group.i will put a different string on it tonight,and some beaver balls,fine tune it and realy put it to the test.i have owned many fine bows,and 3 or 4 stand out in my mind,but this bow has the best balance,pointability,and feel in the hand of any bow i have owned,o,i shot those 12 arrows 4 more rounds,had to replace a nock or two between sessions.the bow is smooth,and i have no doubt it will not be hard to get quiet.i'm happy with my purchase.more in a day or so.regards,robert          

[pitbull]

Twotimer, glad to hear you are enjoying it as much as I am. It shoots carbon shafts with the same results. I found that mine shoots best and is quietest at 7 3/8 bh with the same 5/8 nock location. Can't wait to try out a 8 strand D-97 string on it. It shoots flat out to 30 yards, it feels like I have been shooting it for years.

[vermonster13]

I have started making endless loop ultra-cam strings for mine. They have worked out very well on them so far. I serve the ends and middle with Halo.

[RRock]

David, What is an "ultra-cam" string?

[vermonster13]

It is a Brownell string material. Used on compound bows, but has given me outstanding performance on my bows with out stretching. If you make one with it, be sure to make it to the length you want with the twist number you want because it isn't going to stretch much if any.

"Outstanding strength and durability with the lowest creep factor available.
This product is used by more winning pros than any other material in the industry.
56% Vectran and 44% Hmpe with .014 diameter. "

[twotimer]

another day,another fantastic shooting session with the swan.this is a bow that i just do not want to put down,and i also love to just hold it in hand and enjoy the feel of it.it has the mass weight of a recurve,without the mass of most recurves,especialy the 3 piece curves with the belly mounted limbs.it is a sleek simple, streamlined,very well constructed,no nonsence beauty,altho without all the eye candy of so many of the custom bows out there,it has its own apeal.it came with an endless loop string that dave made,that performed much more than i anticipated.i set up a 12 strand d-97 string last night for use today,as i have not been a big fan of endless loop string before.it performed well enough,but there was not quite the same performance that i had yesterday,altho the difference was minute.i shot great groups at various yardedge,with no handshock,and very little string noise,not as much noise as a faint vibration.after about 30 minutes of shooting i switched back to the endless loop string that came with it and the difference was amazing.i always keep 2 strings for any bow i'm shooting,and have never had this much difference between any 2 for one bow.i took 1 rubber leg selincer,cut in half,and instaled i section on each limb 16" from the tip of the bow while strung,attached with a small zip tie,and thats all it needed to quieten it down,braced it at 7 5/8" were i had it yesterday,string nok staying the same and the difference between the 2 strings was very noticeably,my groups improved by 20%,no flyers at all,none.and i could also tell there was an increse in speed.i think i have found "the one" for me.i had been pretty much disheartened with my shooting the last year,but feel redeamed now.i know i made a great transition when i purchased this bow.thanks,best regards,robert          

[vermonster13]

I'm doing away with the flemish strings on my own bows and replacing them with those Robert. I am really liking the results.

[SteveB]

Dave - what's your endless formula?
Material, strands, and serving dia?

Thanks
Steve

[vermonster13]

6-10 strands of Ultra-Cam depending on bow weight(8 works for most anything). Halo .19 for the end servings for about 6 inches. 5-6 inches of center serving of Halo .19 or .30 depending on the arrow nocks and strand count.

[SteveB]

Thanks!

[Keefer]

Hey Robert,  I got first bids on it when you put it up for trade next week...     You must have a job like one of those car salesmen got...You test drive the bows and trade them in for the new updated models...I still got that Lonewolf Autumn Storm and it stays here...I'm happy for ya buddy and I hope this one is a keeper for you....God Bless Brother and let's see some pics if you know how to post them...Keefer's <")))><

[pktm]

I picked up a Swan from David in a trade. Love that grip, and very smooth, stack free draw. I don't think it's as fast as my Toelke Chinook, but speed isn't everything. For me it's basically the best bomb proof bow out there. That riser is super solid, yet fits the hand so well. The limbs look almost metalic in nature, real tough. The Black Swan's aren't the prettiest bow, but it's the bow I want to hunt with.

[twotimer]

keith,i will disapoint you this time my friend.i was going to do another review last night after shooting 3 different sessions yesterday,but was afraid people would think i was getting paid by david or blac swan to promote their product,lol,in all seriousnes{sp} this is by far the the best shooting bow,for me,that i have ever owned.i have realy been in a shooting slump for some time,but from the first shot with this bow i knew it had changed.i had only been shooting about 3 hours a week for the last 3 or 4 months,now i can't wait to get out and shoot.do 4/5 sessions a day.hope no one takes this wrong,but i am a decent shot,i shoot competition 3/4 times weekly,and have for several years,have the n.c. indoor state championship senior male traditional div,plaque's on my wall for,07,08,09,and came in 2nd in the southeastern sectional's this year.i was not happy with my score's this year and last,but i won,any ways,i wish i had of had this bow to shoot.i went out yesterday,and can hit a button tab at 10 yards almost ever time with this bow,useing 3 different length and spined arrows.button tab being about the size of a quarter.just because this bow shoots so well for me don't mean it will for everbody else,but it's hard for me to lay it down.shooting is fun again.good to hear from you brother,take care,and i'm glad that the storm is still searving you well.as for pic's,i'm on a new laptop and have't picked up a camera yet,but i promise i will.this bow don't have all the eye candy,but it's pretty in it's own right.regards,robert          

[vermonster13]

This is what Robert's bow looks like but his has the Medium High Grip.

   

 

I have 3 sets of limbs left, 66" 40@28 Classic Longbow, 62" 50@28 Hybrid and 62" 54@28 Hybrid. Have a low RH grip and low LH grip, 2 high RH grips and 1 low LH grip. After that they are gone.