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Author Topic: 625grn. AD trad arrow  (Read 576 times)

Offline mountain trapper

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625grn. AD trad arrow
« on: September 11, 2009, 08:29:00 PM »
Do ya'll think a 625 grain arrow is to heavy for a 50# d/r long bow? I'm drawing 28'' and the bow is 60'' long.  I am looking at this weight for elk and bear.  I'm using Abowyer Brown Bears with 75 grn steel adapters and 30grn aluminum inserts.  Too much for the bow or good to go?  Thanks!

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 08:31:00 PM »
sorry didn't mean to post twice

Offline Hattrick

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 09:39:00 PM »
No, ur bow should be vary quiet. I like 9-11grs per #   alot of guys swear by 12 which is where ur at 12.5per #, i would not go any heaver if it were me. Just make sure you have good arrow flight..bear are easy to shoot through maybe easier than whitetail
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Offline Ringneck

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 10:16:00 PM »
I shot the elk in my profile picture with a 640 grain AD arrow out of a 50# bow. Worked just fine. If you can place the arrow in the vitals you are good to go.

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2009, 10:43:00 PM »
Yep, its pretty quiet. I think I have a little tuning to do. I tried the grizzly sticks in both the sitka and alaskan and the sitka was ok but the alaskan was WAY too stiff.  Do you think complete passthroughs on elk are out of the question?

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2009, 03:06:00 AM »
Not fortunate enough to hunt elk, but have read of many pass throughs on them with trad equipment.

Shooting the Grizzlystiks myself and there sure is a TON of difference between the Sitkas and the Alaskans. I half wish there was a spine inbetween the two.

Sitkas fly super at 29.5 inches out of my 45 but the Alaskans out of my 55 had to be the full 32.5 inches, even with a LOT of weight up front.

They FLY unbelievably well but, yikes, that's a lot of arrow hanging out there lol.

Stay in touch. We all like seeing hero shots......even non-hero shots.

Good luck!
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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2009, 06:50:00 AM »
Not if it works for you.
Too heavy for me.

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2009, 07:41:00 AM »
My bow is 58# and I have a 735 gr AD TRAD...
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Offline tukudu

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2009, 03:41:00 PM »
What spine numbers should you be looking at for at 47-50 lb bow?
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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2009, 04:06:00 PM »
im shooting a 660 grain at 52 it seems to work well,up to 15 yards 15-20 she seems to dip down.

Offline mountain trapper

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2009, 06:12:00 PM »
I'm having a hard time paper tuning these.  From six feet they are hitting nock high right.  I've lowered the nock point, I've lowered the brace hight... Still can't seem to get it right!!??  Please help.

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2009, 06:38:00 PM »
By the way the bow is a 60'' Thunder Horn Heart Stopper R/D long bow if that makes any differance.

Offline Ringneck

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2009, 06:52:00 PM »
I would forget paper tuning these shafts. At the most I would bare shaft them. They are very forgiving and should shoot fine with the point weight you have on them. How does a fletched arrow shoot?

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2009, 07:02:00 PM »
For lack of a better description they barrel roll.  I have fletched them with a left helical.  I haven't even tried broad heads yet.

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2009, 07:05:00 PM »
Is it possible that just the nock point could cause this???  If the arrow is spined a little high then you should lower the bh right?

Offline Ringneck

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2009, 07:28:00 PM »
Are you getting a clean release? Nock point will cause up and down porpoising. Left to right is going to be your arrow spine or release.

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2009, 07:51:00 PM »
As far as I know I'm getting a clean release.  I'm right handed and shooting with a glove three under.  Should I try lowing my brace hight?

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2009, 07:56:00 PM »
JC Coots has had a similar problem with AD shafts, although I think it is pretty rare. They shoot very well for me.

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2009, 08:34:00 PM »
I spent the afternoon working on tuning the bow and I think I finally have it!  I had to raise my nock point and drop my brace height.  But the arrows are flying much better!

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Re: 625grn. AD trad arrow
« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2009, 07:58:00 AM »
I shoot aluminum arrows and for me my 66", 42# @ 30" Blacktail TD recurve likes a 32", 2215 with a tip weight of 175 grains. The entire arrow weighs 579 grains making 13.78 grains per pound. Surprisingly, a very flat shooting arrow out to 20 yards. This bow has a Dyna97 bowstring with a brace height of 7 3/4".

My 68", 41# @ 30" Longhorn hybrid longbow likes a 32", 2114 with a tip weight of 175 grains. The entire arrow weighs 546 grains making 13.32 grains per pound. Flat shooting out to 20 yards. This bow has a dacron bowstring with a brace height of 6 3/4".

I normally don't take shots pass 20 yards so if you can get your arrows flat shooting out to the longest distance you normally take a shot, I wouldn't worry about too much arrow weight.
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 42# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 10.02
Blacktail TD Recurve: 66", 37# @ 30". Arrow: 32", 2212. PW: 75 Grains. AW: 421 Grains. GPP: 11.37

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