On the scent issue-attractants-ghillie suits?

[Shleprock]

:confused:  I see from reading Cody's thread several of you folks don't use covers or attractants. If you do or did how do you play the wind. If you want your doe pee to catch the wind isn't your scent going to go the same way? I do use a drag sometimes then I can put the wind in my favor.

The other question I have is the wind, your scent, and ghillie suits. I've read and heard many accounts of deer within a couple yards, a few feet, and even inches from hunters wearing these suits. I try to stay as scent free as possible. Don't use cover scents. Sometimes attractants. I agree the wind and a hunters scent is vitally important. I have no reason whatsoever to doubt the experiances of these hunter's. I know some of them personally. So the ? is at what point does scent seem to matter? From what I have come to think I know a couple yards either downwind, upwind, or cross wind a deer will smell you. Or is it just the confusion factor. Since everything seems to be the natural enviroment. Just wondering If anyone has put any thought into this.

[cheech1]

no doubt about camo working it works buy breaking up you outline but ghillie suits work even better because of the loose strings or leave which make up the suit move like the surrounding leaves branchs in the bush and i think you will find that 99% of the close encounters with deer the wind would have been in the hunters favour. it does not matter what you wear if the wind is in your back you will not get close to a deer or just about any other animal for that matter.
some animals have good eyes some have good hearing some have both but they all have a great scence of smell it's how they find food, mates and predators. so wind is everything

[Shleprock]

ttt

[Slasher]

Lots of turkeys come down wind... The deer don't stay their long...


As for scent control and my ghille... I keep a rubbermaid container and have some top soil/leaves from my area.. I spray it down inside and out with scent killer and let it hang for a day or two under a tree.... I throw in some cut pine boughs with it and a few of the scent away dryer sheets...

It makes the suit not stink like burlap so much, but in all honesty.... Deer do not stay down wind for very long...

[Shleprock]

I'll put it up this last time for the daytime guys.

[dhaverstick]

Garlin,
   It may be the degree of scent that the deer is getting and how conditioned they are to humans. With my ghillie suit on, I've had deer as close as 3 or 4 yards. That was with little or no wind. Last Saturday I had a doe coming into my ambush spot that suddenly hung up about 30 yards out. I quickly checked the wind and saw that it had switched a bit to a less favorable direction. The doe continued to come in but was very cautious. She got to within 15 yards but would not get in my shooting lane. She stood there for a long time, smelling a human but not seeing one. Finally her nose won the battle and she took off.
   Two weeks ago, I had a doe and 2 fawns walk by me at 30 yards completely oblivious to my presence. They were heading downwind of me and I wondered when she would spook. They were over a hundred yards away when they finally crossed my scent trail. At that moment, the doe started snorting like all hell broke loose. I use pretty good scent control (bathing, hunting clothes seperate, etc) but I am convinced that you will never beat a deer's nose if they ever get downwind of you.

Darren Haverstick

[mjh]

Ghillie or not scent is a factor, they may not see yea but if they smell yea the jig is up. I like using my ghillie and do something similar to Slasher for sent control on the suit.  Sometimes I put up scent disks when I'm hunting someting not. The wind swirls a lot where I hunt. Upland/Lowland issues and winding river issues.  Haven't used much attractant scent the last few years while useing a ghillie may have to try that..

[lpcjon2]

If you are going to use attractant scent when you harvest a doe of buck use a syringe (if not a medical one u can use the food basting ones)and extract the urine from the animal you harvest.Put it in small 1-2oz bottles and freeze it take one with you when you hunt and place it 10-20 yrds away from you on the ground (never on your clothes  or boots it will smell real bad after a few days)it will soak into the ground and they will scrape on it for sure.The best attractant is the urine you get from a area deer.If you set up appropriately you will succeed with or without a ghillie (I find they hang up on everything).But to each their own.