Wood arrow material question

[Bjorn]

Don, those Superceders are Magnolia aren't they?

[stump man]

"you will shoot the spine out of a fir shaft long before a cedar".


Jim:
  40years of shooting POC and 30years of shooting Doug fir, I find the opposite of this to be true. IMHO

stump

[getstonedprimitivebowhunt]

debarked Red Oser shafts for primitive arrows

[frank bullitt]

Ramin, Ramin, and Ramin! I still have quite a few 5/16 shafts in 50-60 lb spine and alot of 11/32 dia. in spine up to 100lb.

I bought mine back in the early nineties, that were sold thru Acme. Sure wish they could get them again!

I have pine, chundoo which are are fine shootin shafts also.

Like Tom Leeman, I have been shooting cane this past year, very impressive. I should have heeded Jay's advice years ago, instead of the progression of trying different shafts. But it has been fun!    

[moose eye levi]

Bob W. I sent you a PM about poplars and where to get em but he dosent have actual
"super cedars" just regular poplars and not sure on what all spine he has sorry bout that

[oldway]

I've tryed almost every wood arrow out there.cedar,pine,chundoo,Hexpine,lam.birch,ash and sitka spruce.And by far in my opinion the sitka spruce are the best.They are as straight as premium cedars and tough as nails.I was told once that sitka spruce is one of the strongest woods pound for pound there is.

[lpcjon2]

Dave and Bob W check out seigworks he makes long shafts out of some Texas bass wood.

[Don Stokes]

Bjorn, yes. Yellow poplar is in the Magnolia family. Yellow poplar isn't a true poplar at all. The true poplars, genus Populus, like cottonwood and quaking aspen, aren't as good for arrow shaft material.

[Jim Curlee]

Don;
My 50 lb, 28" bop tapered cedars weigh in at 550 grains, with a 125 gr fp.
I was told back in the day, that "Supercedars" were yellow cedar?
Stump;
You must be about 90? LOL
I'm a youngster, I've only been hunting with a stick bow for 40 years, made arrows professionally for better than 20 years. Made, and sold tapered cedars since the early 80s.
My observations are my own, just because I see something different than you is fine, we are entitled to our own opinions.
I always figured Fir was second behind cedar.
Jim

[Rob DiStefano]

poc for aesthetic nostalgia, aroma and inherent straightness

hex pines for durability, 360 degree rotational spine, and good straightness

ash or hickory for added weight and punch, though both typically need hand straightening after use

i almost always use the braveheart weight footing on all woodies

[Don Stokes]

Jim, we experimented with Alaska yellow cedar for the Superceders, but it didn't work out well. We settled on yellow poplar (Magnolia) because it had the best strength/weight ratio of woods in our area, and the straightest grain.

Alaska yellow cedar is very hard to obtain (high demand), and even though it's in the same genus as POC, we found it to be much heavier for the same spine, and it had lower spine than POC in normal arrow shaft diameters.

[Tsalagi]

I use ash. I have had some GREAT results with arrows I made from sourwood shoots.

[Jim Wright]

In my experience, Hildebrand Sitka Spruce shafts are VERY straight and want to stay that way and Surewood Douglas Firs are close in both categories and readily available in heavier weights. Cedar equaling these in quality seems hard to come by and on hard impacts breaks more often.

[jonsimoneau]

I'm also a big fan of Sitka Spruce.  I've got a couple dozen that I footed with purple heartwood and they are great.  I just footed them 2-wing style, which can be done completely by hand without any Jigs.  It takes awhile but gives me something to do on winter nights.