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Author Topic: Acquiring new arrows  (Read 449 times)

Offline TheFatboy

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Acquiring new arrows
« on: December 05, 2009, 07:08:00 AM »
Dear fellow TradGangers,

For some time, I've shot Beman Carbon Flash, and they work out great. But... as they are spined for lower poundage bows, they're wobbling a little bit when I shoot them off my 70# Tomahawk. Now, I've laid eyes upon these...

  http://www.3riversarchery.com/Product.asp?show=info&c=58&s=195&p=230&i=6771X#full  

I have a few questions though, as I know very little about arrows.

1. GPI - does this mean grains per inch?

2. The product info does not mention anything about the length of the arrows. I could get them cut to my length, but it's fine with me if they are a bit too long. I just need to know HOW long.

3. Should I just assume that they are well-spined for a 70# longbow?

4. I prefer shafts for screw-in points and arrowheads. There is a link to screw-in points below the product info - should I assume that the shafts are for screw-in points?


Thank you all in advance   :notworthy:
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Offline JRY309

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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2009, 08:02:00 AM »
Yes GPI means grains per inch.Most carbons are 30.5" to 32.5" depending on their spine.The higher spined arrows are usally longer.I never cut a carbon arrow without shooting and tuning it to get the correct dynamic spine for my bow.The arrows come with aluminum inserts for screw in points.And you can also buy heavier brass inserts for tuning and to increase overall weight.For my 70# longbow I shoot a 340 and a 300 spine arrow depending on the length.

Offline TheFatboy

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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2009, 08:50:00 AM »
Length sounds good. I think I will be getting spine 340 too. You pretty much answered all my questions - thank you!  :archer:
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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2009, 09:01:00 AM »
I shoot these out of my Turkey Creek,at my draw(291/2") I pull 71#'s, the 340's are to weak even with as little as 125 gn up front. I shoot the 300's with 175 up front, fly good, anymore upfront wt though and I have to build the shelf out. Not sure why, these skinny shafts just dont seem as stiff to me as the GT's..however this is my first experience with the Classics.
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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2009, 07:17:00 AM »
I don't think the 300's are available at the moment, too bad... is the difference between 300 and 340, so big that you would advice me to wait for the 300's to get in stock?
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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2009, 07:24:00 AM »
Fatboy- I carry gold tip traditional 7595's in a .300. spind they should shoot great out of that set up. Once you know what length you need, we will cut them and install inserts for free.

Gold tip blem traditionals 42.99 per dozen. I sell about 2500 dozen gold tip trad blems a year and this is what I personally shoot. Great arrows.
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Offline kanmatt

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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2009, 11:46:00 AM »
In the MFX Classics the 340 spine come full length at 32 inches.  I think they will be too weak for your setup.  I'm shooting these arrows cut to 30.5 inches out of a 57# bow at my draw with 200 grains out front.  You might be able to make them work but you will have to go really light up front.  I think your better off finding something that will let you shoot more weight up front.

Offline TheFatboy

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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2009, 12:45:00 PM »
Jim, that sounds interesting. 42.99 per dozen, cut to length and free inserts? I might just hit that. Are they also pre-fletched?

Matt, I was thinking the same thing (that they may be too light). I intend to use them for hunting also, when the times comes. A heavier arrow should do better there. Thanks for the input.
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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2009, 01:34:00 PM »
Oh, by the way everyone...

If I get the 300 Gold Tip Blems, I'll be getting some field points too (and possibly broadheads, now that I'm at it), but how heavy should I go? Keep in mind, they are just for practice.
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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 03:33:00 PM »
TTT  :)
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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2009, 04:30:00 AM »
TTT on my question two posts above. Shooting a 70@28 longbow, possibly getting 300 Gold Tips... how much weight should I go for up front, when talking field points for practice?

Thanks in advance.
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Offline Jake Fr

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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2009, 04:44:00 PM »
you can get a test kit for your feild tips from three rivers or alaska bowhuntins supply that range from light to heavy and try them and see wich one you like best i even belive you can get insert test kits in diffent weights for this also

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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2009, 05:09:00 PM »
I would set my arrows up for hunting if you plan to hunt in the future with them.  I never understood the idea of a target setup and a hunting setup.  If I am going to shoot and strive for accuracy with a certian setup, I want to be using that one when I go hunting.  If you are competing with a setup and become accurate with it, why would you change it to hunt?
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Re: Acquiring new arrows
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2009, 05:35:00 PM »
You're probably right. Didn't think of it that way. I better go as heavy as possible  :archer:
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