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Offline pcappy08

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shrew bows
« on: January 05, 2010, 10:56:00 PM »
Kickin around the idea of ordering a shrew lil favorite my draw length is pushing 30".  would like to order the bow around 58 or 60# @ 29 or 30.  Has anyone with long draw lengths shot them?  Any reviews or info would be appreciated.  This would be the first time i had a bow made for me,  Thanks
Great Northern Super Ghost
56" 60lbs @ 29"
Morrison Cheyenne
62lbs @ 29"

Offline Toxophilite

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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2010, 11:39:00 PM »
If I were you, I'd call up Ron and ask him that question. If you're gonna order THE BOW for yourself, why not talk to THE MAN?
Also, there are all kinds of earlier topics about Shrews on here where even the short bows are working great for the folks with long draws.
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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2010, 01:02:00 AM »
Pete,

You could actually shoot a 54" Lil Favorite with no problem, but Gregg is now making them in a 56" length that should be ideal for you. My draw length is 29.5" which should be pretty close to yours and I have three 54" Lil Favorites. I did have a 56" on order but changed it to a 56" Classic Hunter at the last minute. I will eventually get a 56" Lil Favorite. I think the Shrew feel incredibly good, and they shoot very well for me. Ron designed a great bow, and he and Gregg just keep improving it with small changes in the configuration and very significant changes in the materials. I just got a new foam/carbon/uni-weft limbed Classic Hunter that is as good as or better than any bow I have ever shot. You really need to shoot the latest version of a Shrew to see how good they really are. The older ones are great too, but the new ones are better. You can't go wrong with a Lil Favorite recurve; however, the Classic Hunter longbow is the model I like the best. See if you can figure out a way to shoot some of the Shrews.

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Offline BobW

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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2010, 07:43:00 AM »
Talk to Ron/Gregg.  Best source of the answers to your questions.
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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2010, 08:42:00 AM »
Thanks guys i fully intend on talking with Ron and Gregg just wanted some first hand accounts of guys stretching the recommended draw length of these short bows.

Allan thanks for all the info, much appreciated guys!
Great Northern Super Ghost
56" 60lbs @ 29"
Morrison Cheyenne
62lbs @ 29"

Offline joevan125

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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2010, 09:00:00 AM »
I have a 30in draw and at the Howard Hill Shoot i got to shoot 2 different Shrew bows. One was a 58in and the other a 60in if i rememeber it right.

Anyway the 2 bows i had were a 64in ACS and a 62in widow PSA X and these 2 bows were much more stable than the shrews to me.

Im not bashing the Shrew bows but they are not for everyone, i would shoot one before i buy it.
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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2010, 10:22:00 AM »
Mass and length obviously will always add stability. That's why target bows have long stabilizers and weigh much more than most hunting bows. Many of the compound bows that are used in target shooting take that to the extreme. So do benchrest rifles and sniper rifles. There is no doubt that with bow designs and construction being similar, the longer, heavier bow will be more stable and tend to shoot more accurately for most people. That is why there is now a Model-T Shrew for those who prefer longer length and more mass. Ron LaClair has been shooting one over the last year both in tournaments and in the hunting fields and has done very well with it.

I find I spend a lot of money on shorter, light-weight, custom rifles for hunting because they are easier to pack for travel, weigh less for baggage and when carrying in the field, and are much easier to shoot from stands, blinds and other tight spots. The shorter, lighter bows -- from the smaller Shrews to other similar bows -- work like my expensive, light-weight, custom rifles. The Shrews are great for travel, and actual hunting conditions that I encounter on most of my game chasing adventures. Joe Van is correct about the stability of short, light bows, but that just means that the archer will have to engage in the same tradeoffs that the bow designer does. I actually shoot my 56" Shrews and my 56" Morrison ILF longbow about as well as my bows that are a full foot longer, and better than many of my longer bows. And it is much easier for me to hunt with a shorter, lighter bow. That said, I have dozens of bows that are 60 inches or longer and I would not hesitate to go hunting with any of them. I have a 64" ACS and it is a great bow. I don't have any Widows, but I have shot many of them and think they are good bows although much heavier than I prefer. I don't think there has been anyone who has shot my Shrews (especially the latest of them) who has not thought they were incredible and wanted to have one; however, I have heard some people who have voiced opinions similar to those by Joe Van. I admit that it took a little adjustment when I first started shooting Shrews. I had to improve my shooting form before I became as accurate with them as with my longer, heavier bows.

Like Joe Van says, it is nice to try any bow before you buy one. It would be best if you could try a bow for an extended period before you write it off. Sometimes my boots don't feel all that good in the store when I try them on, but after a break-in period they can become my most comfortable. The same thing has happened to me with bows. The Shrews are wonderful bows, but there are many other bows out there that are great too and may fit a particular person's needs or preferences better.

Allan
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Offline BobW

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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2010, 11:14:00 AM »
Well said Allan.  As one who owns a long draw, and a Shrew (56" Classic Hunter), I truly appreciate what the bow can do.  Like all bows, they have their quirks.  There is no perfect bow.

BobW
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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2010, 11:26:00 AM »
I have a 56" CH and a 60" SS and draw them to 29 15/16", all my other LB's are 66-68". The Shrews are every bit as stable and comfortable to shoot. The forward handle and that Shrew grip does wonders.

If your used to shooting a heavy 3 pc bow you may have some things to get used to, some cant get used to it. But if you already shoot a lighter bow it should'nt bother you.

Eric

Offline pcappy08

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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2010, 01:52:00 PM »
Thanks guys basically I presently have bows that fall into both categories my great northern is as light as they come but since it wasn't made for my draw it stacks.  My morrison was made for a 30" draw and shoots like a dream but can be a bit tough in thick cover so ultimately was looking for a light powerful short bow (56 or less that won't stack on me to fill the void between my great northern and my morrison. Thanks guys keep em comin appreciate it
Great Northern Super Ghost
56" 60lbs @ 29"
Morrison Cheyenne
62lbs @ 29"

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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2010, 02:06:00 PM »
Well said Allan and i agree it takes some getting use to no matter what bow you desire.

I sold my spot to a guy because i like the bows with more mass but i agree those shorter bows are hear to stay.

I never hunt out of ground blinds but if i did a shrew bow would be in my hand plain and simple, all my hunting is from tree stands.

I like a 66in bow but for hunting they are just too long for my style of hunting so i stay with 64in longbows and 62in recurves.

Rons bows are a year wait so that right there tells you he makes one hell of a bow.  :thumbsup:
Joe Van Kilpatrick

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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2010, 03:46:00 PM »
Adding a little more information here:

I draw a 56" Classic Hunter past 32".... For the record, IT DOES NOT STACK.  The weight gain is a steady 2.5#/in from 27" to 32".  Even Gregg was impressed when he did it.  Ron and Gregg have teamed up to build one heck of a bow!

BobW
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Re: shrew bows
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2010, 08:45:00 PM »
I took a look at a friends Shrew and shot it, was a fun bow for sure - they make a heck of a bow! I know my friend has a 30" draw and he shoots it fine.

It was one of those bows that gave me inspiration to build short bows for longer draws, Ron and Gregg got the combo right - no doubt.

Dave

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