Heavier Judo Points...

[NDTerminator]

Was working on arrows this weekend and one setup tuned nicely with a 145 grain point, which brings us to my bellyache.  Judo Points are made
in 100 & 125 screw ons and 135 glue ons.  To get a matching stumping arrow I had to take a 135 grain glue on, glue it on a broadhead adapter, then grind off the tip until I got a 145 grain head.  At that, it was so long, it didn't fly as closely to the field points and BHs as I would like.

Considering how many of us shoot 140+ points and use arrows with screw in inserts, why isn't some enterprising Trad gear business-dude not building a heavier grass grabber stumping/small game point?

[saumensch]

been there, never had the motivation to do all the work you made yourself, thought the same! nowadays i jsut change insert weight so that i can use 125gr. tips all over

[bornagainbowhunter]

For that very reason, my stumpin' arrows are carbon.  I use brass inserts to be able to get my 195grs up front even with a Judo

[maineac]

I shoot 125 gr. glue on bhs and just glued the same adapter into the 135.  Didn't notice enough of a difference in arrow flight to worry about.  ou must be a much better shot than I am.      

[Bowmania]

Years ago I took it off from the other end.  I don't think you said what kind of arrows your shooting.  If they are carbon get the PDP Adjustable Weight System from 3 Rivers.  You can add weight in increments of 5 10 and 30 grs.

Bowmania

[NDTerminator]

There are a number of ways to get more weight up front, I'm asking the guys who make stuff to give us an easy screw in solution starting at 140-145 grains...

[StanM]

Terminator, I'm working on it    I've got the screw-ins in 125 grains and just got this proto-type glue-on that was 200 grains.  I've got an idea for the glue-ons that should allow us to offer them in three different weights very simply.  Should have something else to post in a week or so.  Hopefully, we'll have something that works for you.

Glue-on prototype

 

Stan

[Kenneth]

I like the looks of those heads Stan.  Are you planning to offer the screw-in head in different weights also?

[xtrema312]

They are not a judo, but I find the hammer heads to work well and you can get a lot more weights.  I use the 145's and they work great.  

Another option is a standard 125 gr blunt or field point with a 20 gr. Zwickey Scorpio.

[JimB]

The 135 glue on Judos are actually 145.

[Old York]

Stan, somebody had one of those at the
2nd Annual Rabbit Hunt, NICE looking head!

Alternative - glue-on broadhead adapter, with
8-32 screw & sharpened wing nut.

[Arwin]

I would like to see the Judos made heavier and a bit stronger too. I always seem to split the sides on them stump shooting.

[cacciatore]

Yes there are many alternatives and with the weight insert system you can have whatever you need.

[StanM]

Kenneth, it will probably be a while before we get a different screw-in weight.  Right now working on getting a glue-on in the product line.  I'm hoping that people that need a heavier screw-in will be able to use the glue-ons and an adapter.

Old York, thanks!  Hoping someone will run one through a rabbit soon and post some feedback.

[Gerry]

GLue on judos to an insert - no big deal IMHO.

[Jerry Wald]

I have never gotten judos to fly the same anyway cause of the drag (they seem to wobble and hit lower....BH fly through the air clean so I always seem to hit differently with the judo's.

They say 5 grain won't make too much difference and I think they are right accept when it come to the judos and the drag..oops think I reapeated myself

jer bear

[NDTerminator]

Originally posted by JimB:
The 135 glue on Judos are actually 145.

Both in the pack were 135 on the nose on my digital scale...

[mcgroundstalker]

Was thinking the same thing myself. I'd love a 175gr judo point. Till then I'll have to stump shoot with the Axe Hex Heads. They work Great! Only thing is I can't use those for The Muzzy Shoot in August. Gotta be Judos Only for safety reasons.

... mike ...