Enough bow?

[LoneWolf73]

Yup, just have to find an Elk and it's kill Zone and you should be fine.

[jrchambers]

I would personaly not wory about the 600 gr setup, thats about just right if you ask me, and they make a 145 stos,  700gr off a 55lb bow is a bit over kill if you ask me,  it will definatly take some time to get your brain used to the new lob.

[mnbearbaiter]

Thats why i made the post in the first place!!! I may still go up a spine and shoot a 160 Stos and Douglas Fir arrow! Maybe get a group thats just a tad heavier than the cedars would be. I normally shoot a heavy for setup arrow, "cuz a man just never knows what could happen"! I soaked those cedars in Watco Danish Oil to get em heavier, otherwise they wouldnt have been close to that! Thanks for the honesty!

[Ceb]

Sounds to me like you WANT to change your current setup, which to me is perfectly fine, so go for it. If you can learn the trajectory, it will certainly do the job. By the way, your original setup will do the job also.

[mnbearbaiter]

From what everybody says i now believe that it will work just fine! But fir shafts are tougher and if i gain 50gr i gain 50gr i guess! I have read on here how some guys have broken cedars on tough trips out west in the past, thats the main reason im switchin cuz im fond of cedar!

[JimB]

I believe also that either setup will work.Those STOS heads are nice.I also know when it's months away from a hunt we are excited about,we like to tinker with equipment and make sure things are good for the hunt.It helps me pass the time when I'm climbing the walls.

I have been playing around with arrows that weight,making a similar jump in weight as you are talking about.It took very little time to adjust though there is a difference.There is also a difference in how hard they hit.I have been working with carbons so it may not be the same but have found that going up in point weight 15-25 grs would need 5# stiffer spine.You may even find that you could shorten your shaft 1/2" to increase your head weight 15 grs and still have good flight.

Whichever way you go,it's going to be a fun trip.I hope you keep us updated.

[mnbearbaiter]

Thanks Jim! I sure will keep everyone up to date! You are right, it's a long way away! Ive got two spring turkey hunts planned(Black Hills, SD and one in my home state MN), before then, plus plenty of shooting and bowfishing this summer:) Im goin to order some fir shafts today in 65-70 from either Surewood or Allegheny! Which do you recommend? Im a little loyal to Allegheny and have received several good sets of shafts over the years from them!!!

Did you soak the whole cedar shaft in the watco oil?  Does that create an adhesion problem for dipping or gluing? Would the fir shafts need the oil soak to get that 700 grain mark? I did not get that kind of weight with my fir shafts, but I cut everything so the broadhead touches my finger at full draw, 27" bop.  Sorry for the questions. Oh one more, do the shafts soak up the weight of the oil evenly?  I would love to get my own cedars up a bit in weight as well, for my new lower draw weight bows, low to mid 50s.

[mnbearbaiter]

I soaked 23/64 cedars for a week in the oil, then i took em out and let em dry in the upright position for a week! I then add a hand rubbed coat of Spar Helmsman Urethane and let em dry a day, Duco sticks really well to it! I cut and tapered before soaking, also did a bit of straightening! Feb/Mar '09 Trad Bowhunter mag is where i got the idea from! He only soaked 2-3 shafts at a time, i built a tube out of 2" PVC with a cap on one end and a cleanout on the other and i soak the whole 12 shafts together! Fir may not be as porous as some shafts! We will see!

[amar911]

Originally posted by soopernate:
You need at least ten pounds per hundred weight which means you have to shoot at least 90 pounds to kill an elk. Plus a 900 grain arrow..

That 10 pounds per hundred weight of animal is a good rule of thumb. I have a seven hundred (700) pound draw weight bow on order for the bull elephant I am planning on shooting and will use the rear axle off a Ryder truck to make the arrow shaft.                                     Yeah, right!!

Allan