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Author Topic: How big are your groups?  (Read 791 times)

Offline swampbuck

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2010, 07:39:00 AM »
group size depends on how many arrows are in the group.Most folks here don't shoot the 300 round where ALL 60 arrows count.More arrows means there's more chance of an oop's and many folks don't count that even though it'd count on game

How often do ya use form when hunting??come on biggie you use it every single time if ya expect to hit what your shooting at with any kind of confidence.Even bent over backwards requires a fella to reach full draw anchor and execute a consitant release.

short draw or anchoring 2" away from your face or under you chin vs what ya normally do will only lead to disaster sooner or later...form is still required to shoot under a low hanging branch or around the back side of a tree same as standing on the line shootin paper

oddly the best shots on paper tend to be the best shots on game too go figure    :thumbsup:    :campfire:
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #41 on: March 03, 2010, 08:48:00 AM »
I'm new so my groups get fairly brutal after 12 yards.

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #42 on: March 03, 2010, 08:53:00 AM »
Swampbuck...NOPE (big NOPE) I've killed scores of animals at 3/4 draw and never come near my anchor point. For me it's instinctive. Trying to turn your self into a shooting machine is for target archers.
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Offline Biggie Hoffman

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2010, 08:54:00 AM »
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #44 on: March 03, 2010, 09:31:00 AM »
Biggie, if the plan is to consistently hit what you’re shooting at we’re all target archers. It’s immaterial whether the target is a 1" spot on a target face, a pie plate on a bale, a leaf on the ground, or a deer or pig. They’re all “targets”. Consistency from shot to shot will always yield the best results and that requires repeatable form. Consistent form (draw, anchor, release) should not hinder  what you can do on unorthodox shots presented while hunting.  

I lack consistency and as such miss more than I should, but it is something I strive for. I don't do it by shooting groups on a target face but by doing a lot of roving, shooting a single arrow at different size targets, at different ranges, in varying terrain.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #45 on: March 03, 2010, 10:05:00 AM »
Glad it's works out for ya Big     :bigsmyl:   I guess from 5' a fella could get away with 3/4 draw I'm just not that lucky and try hard to hit a consitant anchor reguardless if I,m standing straight up or hunched over and yea I've tried the bent over backwards shot it isn,t to hard but I still hit full draw...hopefully   :biglaugh:
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #46 on: March 03, 2010, 10:26:00 AM »
Yeah, Tom I guess it's what works for each of us. I know Mussato is a good shot even though he won't admit it.

I prolly should try to hit anchor every time, but if I'm thinking about that, my natural instinctive ability is compromised. Repetition can't make me do what is physically impossible either. Leaning around a tree makes it immpossible to reach anchor. If it screws up your "form" what happens to the arrow then?
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #47 on: March 03, 2010, 10:33:00 AM »
"If it screws up your "form" what happens to the arrow then?"

Then you pull a Mussatto and miss. No big deal, just go find another target.    :)

"Repetition can't make me do what is physically impossible either."

Biggie, the older I get the more things I find physically impossible. Still fun in the trying though.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #48 on: March 03, 2010, 10:41:00 AM »
What I lack in consistency, I make up for with a poor release and a floating anchor.
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #49 on: March 03, 2010, 12:31:00 PM »
I recall taking a shot while standing on my Rt foot 10' up a pine tree,my lft legt wrapped around the trunk and my foot hooked so I could lean out and clear a tree in front...

My bow arm is still extended pushing into the target,my shoulders still squared up and at anchor my elbow is behind the arrow all lined up AKA proper form ,at least up top

after a few thousand times ya don,t even think about it but it should still be there

Now if only I could make mine as consitant as I'd like    :biglaugh:  Have FUN guys !!   ;)
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #50 on: March 03, 2010, 12:40:00 PM »
"Biggie, the older I get the more things I find physically impossible. Still fun in the trying though."

HahahaHaah...yup!
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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2010, 09:41:00 PM »
At 24 i start doing a scatter shot effect.  inside that i do pretty decent 5 _ 6 in.

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2010, 10:03:00 PM »
What Jason said, pretty well sums it up.

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Re: How big are your groups?
« Reply #53 on: March 03, 2010, 10:35:00 PM »
I saw a similar question on another site. By the time I got to page 3, I had put boots on and get a shovel just to get out. I've been to a lot of shoots and shot with some fantastic shooters, and what is written online just doesn't jive with what I see in the real world.
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