Deflection of TRADITIONAL ONLY arrows

[Bahrzoo]

I am trying to figure out the deflection of the Traditional Only 400 and 500 arrows and how they compare to a Carbon Express heritage 150 and 250?

[wtpops]

Trad only 400 is .400
trad only 500 is .500

And so on.

If im not mistaken that is.

[Biggie Hoffman]

I just went from the Heritage 350 to the Traditional 400's. Enough of a difference that I don't get the wiggle I was getting with the 350's.

Sorry I can't answer your question but Pops did already anyway 8-)

[Bahrzoo]

Biggie, The Carbon Express 350 has a deflection of .260 and that would mean the Tradional Only arrow is at .400 that is a huge spread. I am wondering if the Tradional Only arrow really has a deflection of .400? The deflection of the Carbon Express 350 is at 26" is that also the way the Tradional Only arrow is getting its deflection of .400?

[Jason R. Wesbrock]

Originally posted by Bahrzoo:
I am trying to figure out the deflection of the Traditional Only 400 and 500 arrows and how they compare to a Carbon Express heritage 150 and 250?

As per the Carbon Express web site, their Heritage shafts have the following deflections:

90 = .530
150 = .487
250 = .373
350 = .320

  http://www.carbonexpressarrows.com/cms/node/75  

“Traditional Only” shafts, which are relabeled Beman ICS Classics, have whatever deflection the model number shows (ex. 400 = .400, 340 = .340 etc.).

All of these deflections are at 28" with a 1.94# weight, as per ATA specs.

[wapiti792]

I went from a 250 heritage to a 300 Trad Only and had to add alot of weight. I got a 690 gr elk arrow...now I know why  

[Bahrzoo]

OK the chart I am looking at is based at 26" for the carbon Express arrows and they are as follows
 90= .410
150= .375
250= .300
350= .260

 How do we know the Tradional Only arrows are at 28" and not 26" ? Is it standard to measure at 28"?

In the back of the Black Widow owners manual is were I am getting my information on the deflection and it is based on 26" .

[dino]

28" with a 1.94# weight is an ATA standard for the measurement of carbon shafting.  26" is for measuring wood.

[Killdeer]

Anybody know why the heck they did that?
Maybe to get us to buy a bunch of shafts because we don't know how they were calibrated?  

Every time I learn something, they change it!  
Killdeer

[Bahrzoo]

Dino, Thanks for clearing that up. Now it all makes sense.

[Zbone]

Since Carbonwoods are no long made, and was shooting the 3000s, anyone know their deflection and/or what of the Traditional Onlys are comparable?

Thanx

[varmint101]

Killdeer, that's how Easton spines their arrows and that's who makes the TradOnly series.  Kinda like how Gold Tip says 5575, 7595 etc.  Just their thang.

[Bahrzoo]

Zbone, What are you shooting for a bow and how much weight? What draw length? How heavey do you want the arrow to finish up at as far as over all weight goes?

[Guru]

Z, The closest to the 3000's would be 400's...but they'll be a heavier arrow.

[Zbone]

Thanx Guru

Bahrzoo - I shoot different weights of bows and points, was looking for the same spine deflection of a Traditional Only compared to a Carbonwood 3000 at 28".

Thanx

[Zbone]

Oops, forgot to ask, what is the outside diameter of the Traditional Only 400s, and will my Vapor Carbonwood 3000 inserts and nocks fit these shafts?

Thanx