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Offline acadian archer

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Another carbon question
« on: April 24, 2010, 09:30:00 PM »
was thinking of trying some carbons out but my dealer had a very limited selection.

I'm currently shooting 44# @ 28 inches and using 30" inch 1916 XX75s and a 125 grain tip.

Assuming I stay with 125 grain tips any suggestions regarding a starting point???
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Offline swampdrummer

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2010, 09:33:00 PM »
Give Big Jim a call. He's a sponsor here. GT blems. 35/55 should get you real close with 125 grains up front.
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Offline JRY309

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2010, 09:36:00 PM »
I would look for a carbon in the .600 spine range,like CE Heritage 75,GT Entrada 600 or GT 15/35,Beman Classic 600 or Axis 600.Start full length and trim and tune from there.

Offline Winterhawk1960

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2010, 09:40:00 PM »
swampdrummer already beat me to it. Most likely you could get away with up to 200 plus grains up front. Most of my bows are 45# @ 29" and I've got 50 grain brass inserts up front and can shoot up to and including 200 grain field tips.

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Offline Smallwood

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2010, 11:13:00 AM »
fyi...
a 1916 spines out at = 623...

carbon express terminator juniors (6.0gpi)= 628
1916 @ (10.0gpi)= 623  
gold tip 15/35 (7.6gpi)= 600  
carbon express heritage 90s (9.4gpi)= 530  
gold tip 35/55 (8.6gpi)= 500  

also, any of the other 600 spine shafts that jry309 mentioned.

Offline acadian archer

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2010, 07:43:00 PM »
thanks great info
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Offline Shinken

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2010, 07:46:00 PM »
Ditto on the .600 spine with 125 gr - the 35/55 with only 125 gr points will likely be too stiff....

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Offline Jesse Peltan

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2010, 09:39:00 PM »
Here are some specs that will match the dynamic spine within .5#.  Gt 15-35 trad 29in 175grain point.  Arrow weight 430, arrow foc 19.8 vs 1916 has 461grains of arrow weight foc of 13%.  If you want to stay with a 125 grain point get a 50grain insert with the 15-35.  This arrow should tune exactly compared to the other.  They're close in weight and the 15-35 has efoc.

Offline Flying Dutchman

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 03:22:00 AM »
Take a look at Stu Millers' Dynamic spine calculator!   http://heilakka.com/stumiller/   This should give you a good starting point!
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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2010, 10:23:00 AM »
Is your riser cut to or past center? The 500 - 600 spines should be fine. I would tend to go with the 500 so if you wanted to add more weight up front later you could without making the shafts too weak.

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Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2010, 11:48:00 AM »
I'd also suggest a .600 carbon for that set up.  Many good options have been mentioned, and we also have the Carbon Express Predator II's in a .600 spine as well (called 20/40's).

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Offline kenn1320

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2010, 12:00:00 PM »
Just like to agree with some of the posts above. I shoot a 45lb longbow with 1535's full length, even though I draw 28". I have 100gr brass inserts with 125gr tips. I can shoot em bare shaft even and no tail left/right. Now if only my other bow/combo would do that.
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Offline Eugene Slagle

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2010, 12:01:00 PM »
I'm shooting a full length {30"} Gold Tip Traditional 35/55 w/ 5" feathers, 125gr. point & 1" piece of 2117 footer out of my 52* 28" Zona T/D Recurve so I would suggest the 15/35's for that lighter weight.

On my Hoyt Dorado set up with 40# Samick limbs I shoot the Gold Tip Entrada 600's w/ 3" feathers & 125gr. points.
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Offline kenn1320

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Re: Another carbon question
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2010, 12:27:00 PM »
Just like to agree with some of the posts above. I shoot a 45lb longbow with 1535's full length, even though I draw 28". I have 100gr brass inserts with 125gr tips. I can shoot em bare shaft even and no tail left/right. Now if only my other bow/combo would do that.
I'm not a "deer" hunter, I'm a bow hunter that occasionally shoots a deer.

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