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Differences between R/D and D shape

Started by J. Holden, May 07, 2010, 01:00:00 PM

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J. Holden

I'm sure this question has been asked.  I couldn't find an answer though using the search option so I'll ask it again.  Putting the un-strung shape aside, is there any difference between a R/D longbow vs. a D shape longbow?  I've been going back and forth looking at different models and was wondering.  I've looked at Northern Mist (Baraga), Apex Predator(Cumberland) and a Howard Hill.  Is there a difference in hand shock?  The feel of the weight when pulled?  Thanks guys.  And I'm not trying to start any arguements please.  Just lookin' for personal opinions.  Thanks.

-Jeremy
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Hill Hunter

I have not shot a lot of longbows, I had a
D long bow several years ago that had a lot of handshock, I now have a Martin D that has some handshock, I shot and ordered a Big Jim Thunderchild that I could not feel the arrow leave (R/D) I don't know if this is because of
D vs. R/D or not.
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Crash

A straight or "D" shaped bow will have more felt handshock than an R/D shaped bow will, in general.  I really haven't noticed much difference in the feel of the bow on the draw though.  R/D bows will also normally be faster than "D" shaped bows.  If you are not sensitive to shock, properly tune the bow and shoot a fairly heavy arrow, most "D" bows are very pleasant to shoot and I think they are the coolest looking bows.  In reality, all bows have shock or vibration, some bow designs just dampen it better than others.
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cbCrow

I shoot a D bow but have ordered a R/D bow after 3-4 months of research and talking with a bunch of bowyers. From what I have gathered from their talks is the R/D bow bridges the gap between recurves and D bows, thare usually smoother so you can shoot a shorter bow(in my case I'm going from 66" to 62" and felt no pinch or harshness) you can get a different style grip( main reason for me due to injury)and a better amount of stored energy. These were main reasons given to me.  :archer:

J. Holden

As always, thanks for the info gentlemen.  

-Jeremy
Pslam 46:10

"A real man rejects passivity and takes responsibility to lead, provide, protect, and teach expecting to receive the greater reward." Dr. Robert Lewis

Oliverstacy

Check out Apex Predator's website...Marty has a great set of bows he offers.  "D", slight r/d and full R/D.

I just got my 66" Cumberland "D" yesterday and I love it!

Josh
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cahaba

I had a D shaped bow and a R/D from the same bowyer. The R/D shot smoother but I could shoot the D bow better. To each his own. I like the thump of a true D shaped bow. It feels alive. I just recieved a Northern Mist Classic and it is a fine shooting D bow.
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J. Holden

And here lies the dilema.  I've been lookin' at the Cumberland by Apex Predator as well as a used Northern Mist Baraga.  What to do...

-Jeremy
Pslam 46:10

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kennym

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Str8Shooter

If you are comparing two bows that both maintain a "D" shape when strung but one has straight limbs and the other is an R/D you can make a couple generalizations. Normally, the R/D bows may be a little quicker, may be pulled farther without stacking for the same length bow, may have less handshock (subjective), might be a little noisier.

If you are comparing the "D" shaped bow vs. strung bow that shows the R/D shape (hybrid/longcurve/etc) the differences will be more pronounced.

In terms of shot feel much of that will be subjective. A well balanced "D" bow with limbs that are timed correctly will pull smooth, shoot quiet, and have minimal thump. A well made hybrid will be the same. The ones you've listed are all well made bows so pick the one that you think will fit your shooting/hunting style best.


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