I've got the new ones. Pretty nice. Just like the new 200's. 25 degree bevel from factory, so you don't have to remove nearly as much metal. They came a real thick factory burr, so they were extremely dull. I like that the lamination goes all the way to the bevel, so you don't have that line going across the broadhead. If it's a choice between the old and the new, I'd get the new. You can generally get the new 200's and 160's, but if you want any that aren't el grande, it seems that they are having some trouble getting them to the retailers. If I needed new broadheads and didn't mind taking the extra metal off, I wouldn't wait. JMHO.