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Author Topic: Broadhead Article  (Read 355 times)

Offline levibear

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Broadhead Article
« on: June 21, 2010, 08:02:00 PM »
I just finished reviewing an article on broadhead design in the June/July issue of traditional bowhunter by Woody Sanford. It Has much to say particularly looking at the target as a dynamic system.... I look forward to your thoughts.  :coffee:
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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2010, 08:40:00 PM »
Woody Sanford is not only a traditional bowhunter, but he is also a very integral part of the Magnus broadhead company.  I thought he did a very good job of explaining why their company does not produce a single bevel broadhead and how it's possible to still kill game efficiently using a double bevel broadhead.    :)
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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2010, 09:46:00 PM »
Did it need explaining?  "[dntthnk]"   a sharp spoon will kill if it takes otu the chest cavity. I like single bevels, but have killed more with double bevels. gonna shoot strictly singles this yr. Really dont may any hoots difference if scary sharp and in the boiler room.

Confidence/experience are more important than how many bevels ya shoot.

Course from a business standpoint Magnus is a dang good company, stand behind their stuff.

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Offline Ground Hunter

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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2010, 10:41:00 PM »
Yea the dbl. bevel is just too old to really be of much use to us "modern" traditional bow hunters.  Wood is on the way out too - way too old school.  Dacron - the way of the DODO bird.  Straight limbed bows will soon be outlawed as too slow.  You will not be able to even get a license without proof of ghillie suit ownership.  Yes we have come a long way baby!  We have evolved.  Just kidding guys.  Shoot what you want.  As long as it's sharp you'll get no sass from me.  But - well it does make you think.  Ok, I'm going to go count the strands in my string - just incase the warden wants a look.

Offline Diamond Paul

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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2010, 07:23:00 AM »
Yes, the article made lots of sense.  Every hobby, sport, whatever, seems to go through fads and the current one seems to be super heavy, high foc arrows with boat anchor single bevel broadheads sharpened to precisely such an angle, because we need every ounce of penetration we can get on the infamous whitetail deer, lest he charge and gore us with our own arrow because there is too much of the shaft sticking out of him.  Seriously, isn't 9 or 10 grains per pound pushing a 125 grain Magnus or some such enough for just about anything on this continent?  I think Ashby's research is excellent and gives us food for thought, but I believe we take it a bit too far at times.  They all work if they are sharp and hit in the right place.
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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2010, 07:32:00 AM »
well said Ground Hunter...
I think I'll go and shoot a few cedars tipped with double bevel Ribteks from my dacron stringed Hill...lol
I'm sure the single bevel theory is sound and that people get great results with them and i won't dismiss it at all but my gear has worked pretty well previously when i have done my bit.
Now , if i was going after a water buffalo it might be different...maybe...
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Offline Ragnarok Forge

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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2010, 12:46:00 PM »
Double bevel heads work great, hunted with them for years.  Nowadays I hunt with 584 grain arrows with Grizzly El Grande 175 grain left single bevel heads.  Why?  Elk are tough and I like the extra confidence I have in the penetration.  I only take close ( for me ethical range ) shots at any animal.  Thus I probably don't actually need the pentration enhancement.  Just like my handgun.  I want it to be there just in case.
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Offline Doc Nock

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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2010, 03:16:00 PM »
Lowell,

That would be my point... nothing at all wrong with double bevel...all my kills were double till this year, 2 w/ single.

Why? Purely my own value system. As I struggle with lowering draw weight, I will do EVERYthing that is available to enhance penetration---as Lowell said, "just in case."
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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2010, 03:17:00 PM »
Oh...and y'know...after getting a KME BH sharpener and FINALLY learning to do some decent sharpening...Single bevel takes about 1/2 the work!  :D    :knothead:    :jumper:
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Offline ChuckC

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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2010, 03:24:00 PM »
Good information.  Read it.  Thanks  

Now I will make my own choice.

I actually question Woody's choice of photos (griz bear)and the shot locations.  Sure looks like the arrow hit smack in the shouulder.  Bone or blade, don't know.  I am guessing ANY arrow out of a bow that I can pull hitting right there is gonna come to a screaming halt and vibrate back and forth just as his photos show.  

Fact, anything short of a .338 Win mag is gonna have some trouble.
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Offline rraming

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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2010, 04:23:00 PM »
I thought the article was great - never cared for all the hype on single edge heads so I'm a little biased. You could tell by reading it he used his words with caution as to not offend anyone. Good read indeed! I was happy to see TBM run the article as well, different opinions are always welcome.

Offline KEG

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Re: Broadhead Article
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2010, 10:35:00 PM »
I have my setup using double bevel. If I was setting up for the first time I would use single bevel to get better penetration. Why not use them? I believe my setup is more than adequate. If I hunt something tougher than small deer I may make the switch.

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