Really Heavy Tip Search

[chopx2]

Anyone know where I can get field points heavier than 315gr? I know of 300gr and 315gr tips sources (3R & AK Bow Supp respectively), but I'm looking for something up to the 340-360gr range.

Also screw in broadheads it that range would be interesting to find. Right now I use glue ons with adapters and lead to get the weights I want.

I am looking to put about 440-450gr up front total. The more in the tip the better.

[JimB]

That is a tough one.I think 315 is the heaviest screw in field point being sold now.You can go a little heavier by using 125 gr steel adapters,then a glue on head.You can put lead in the hollow cavity of the steel adapter and may get 20 grs there if it is solid lead.

I have made 318 gr heads but didn't need to go any heavier.I'm not sure if you can get as heavy as you want or not.I just haven't figured out how.I guess where there is a will,there is a way.It woul almost seem like it would require some custom parts.

I know you want point weight but instead of an aluminum external footing,how about brass or stee? I don't know how many grains that would be but it might help.

I hear some say that there is a difference in whether the weight is in the point or insert but in my shooting,I just can't see it.Not saying it isn't so.Good luck.I'd be interested in hearing what you come up with.

[JimB]

It just dawned on me and I know nothing of woody weights but they come in weights from 75-200 grains.I wonder if you could put one between the head and steel adaptor?It looks like weight would be unlimited then.Good luck.

[Fishnhunt]

I have been making my own points in 350 and 385 grains like this:


125 grain steel adapter + 100 grain woody weight + 125 grain original ww = 350 grains up front

and

125 grain steel adapter + 100 grain woody weight + 160 grain snuffer = 385 grains up front.

Same thing works with glue on field points to get broadheads = field point weight.
 
I am using ferr l tite to put them together

Using the woody weights gives you a longer overall point up front so it will weaken your spine.  I have only shot 2 pigs with this setup but so far no problems with head integrity or the added lever/length.

[chopx2]

Interesting thought. I might have to try the woodies.

There is a product made by aftershock archery called a booster that would be perfect if it were made from steel and not aluminum (tried the alum and they are too weak and too light). I thought of making one myself, but would need better machining skills and equipmentt than I have.

[Bill Skinner]

What draw weight are you working with?  Bill

[chopx2]

Originally posted by Bill Skinner:
What draw weight are you working with?  Bill

Depending on bow between 52 and 61 lbs. I shoot the lower weight more.

[chopx2]

Originally posted by Fishnhunt:

Using the woody weights gives you a longer overall point up front so it will weaken your spine.  I have only shot 2 pigs with this setup but so far no problems with head integrity or the added lever/length.

I like the added length feature of using the woodies as the 3"el grande's  BHs are longer too and tend to shoot a bit weaker.

[SlowBowinMO]

I am also using 350 gr screw in points in 2 bows, no heavy insert just a steel adapter with a Woody Weight and the point.  I'm shooting 350 gr but obscene weights would easily be possible using that method.  You can do the same to build heavy field points in whatever you need also.

[Andy Cooper]

Why such heavy points? Just curious...not trying to start a squabble.

[2treks]

Mr. Braveheart has it, The woodyweights give you LOTS of options. Easy to use and NO problems.
Chuck

[chopx2]

Originally posted by Andy Cooper:
Why such heavy points? Just curious...not trying to start a squabble.

I've been toying with FOCs over 30% and let me tell you it is very hard to get over that threshold. The heavy inserts help, but most of the weight needs to be in the point hence my quest.

I'm at 32-33% with my set up depending on whether I'm at 415gr (insert & tip) or 450gr respectively

[Andy Cooper]

I didn't ask a good question, so now my iggernance is going to show. Why do you want such a high FOC percentage? Thanks.

[chopx2]

Sort of 2 answers to that...

1. I like to tinker...
2. There is a forum on here with Dr. Ed Ashby's findings on penetration on large game (buffalo) that shows strong evidence that after perfect flight, Broadhead design, arrow weight and FOC were major factors in penetrating hide, then bone and post bone breach penetration respectively.

Yes I'm a bit of a geek too.  

[Andy Cooper]

I do the same thing reloading for rifles...tinker. It might be geeky, but it's fun. I have a lot to learn about trad gear before I start tinkering too much, though!

[Ragnarok Forge]

Carbon shaft arrows.

100 grain brass insert.  125 grain screw in steel adapter and 190 grain field point.  Gives you 415 gr up front.

100 grain SA = 390 grains up front

75 grain SA = 365 grains up front

I am working with some 500 spine FMJ's and Epic 500's to hit 650 to 750 grain arrows for hog hunting.  I haven't measured the foc yet.