Heavy-Weight??

[3Feathers]

Whats your oppinion on 650gr. hunting arrows for whitetails out of a 55lb. longbow???Does that sound like to much weight?I,ll be hunting out of a treestand.My arrow setup is MFX-500 with 100gr insert,165gr -simmonsshark with 100gr. steel insert.

[brinkwolf]

That's a little heavy for whitetails but depends how your bow shoots them. If it shoots them good and should provide less noise than use them. Also depends on how you feel about pass thru shots. At that weight a broad side shot on a whitetail will probably be a pass thru. Some people prefer pass thru shots were others like the arrow to stay in. Also depends on what range you shoot at. A lighter arrow will be a little flatter. To much weight is better than to light a weight I feel. BW says there bows will shoot 8grns per pound to stay in warranty but suggest 9 to 10grn per pound. Your arrows put you at almost 12.

[COMPOUNDLESS IN CONCRETE]

No such thing as too much penetration.  I am shooting 625 grain arrows with 21.5% foc, and am considering adding heavier inserts to bring it up to around 700 grains.  I'm shooting these out of a 55# recurve and will be sticking with the same setup for deer, elk, black bear, grouse, or whatever is legal and in front of me.  Knowing I have enough momentum to blow through anything in North America with a well placed arrow and wicked sharp broadhead gives me peace of mind.

[brinkwolf]

Oh forgot to mention, I shoot 10 to 11grns per pound with all my set-ups. I give up some range for better penetration and the bow is quiter with the heavier arrows.

[ChuckC]

650 is only 11.8 g/pound of draw weight.  It is a heavy arrow but not unreasonable by any means.  Some folks use WAY heavier arrows.  If you can shoot them accurately and they fly well, don't worry about it, shoot em.

My 2 cents
ChuckC

[Ragnarok Forge]

It sounds perfect to me.  If you decide to travel to hunt hogs, elk, etc...  You are set up to make clean kills with one arrow set up.

[stevewills]

ya sounds like a killer combo

[frassettor]

I shoot 750 gr arrows from my setups listed below. "to heavy for Whitetails"..How can the be? I prefer to shoot the same setup for everything including these buggers!

   

To much arrow weight??....I don't think so! Nice setup!  

[brinkwolf]

Originally posted by frassettor:
I shoot 750 gr arrows from my setups listed below. "to heavy for Whitetails"..How can the be? I prefer to shoot the same setup for everything including these buggers!

     

To much arrow weight??....I don't think so! Nice setup!      

Them squirrels are tough to put down. They usually end a few feet from you after a charge. Oops wrong animal(that would be a cape buffalo.)   :D  Heck that would be 10 grns per lb out of my 74lb longbow.

[jimmerc]

That's the same weight arrow I shoot off my 55# recurve and I can say that it is a perfect weight!

[frassettor]

Originally posted by brinkwolf:
 

Originally posted by frassettor:
I shoot 750 gr arrows from my setups listed below. "to heavy for Whitetails"..How can the be? I prefer to shoot the same setup for everything including these buggers!

     

To much arrow weight??....I don't think so! Nice setup!          

Them squirrels are tough to put down. They usually end a few feet from you after a charge. Oops wrong animal(that would be a cape buffalo.)    :D   Heck that would be 10 grns per lb out of my 74lb longbow. [/b]

   

[trubltrubl]

I try and keep all my arrows regardless of the bow I use around the same weight. 600 grains to 650 grains...this way you have consistency in flight and your "computer " , if you shoot instinctual , does not need to adjust all the time.

[BSBD]

That's too heavy for me.

I prefer 9 - 10 gpp because it gives similar trajectory and penetration.

You won't have consistency with 650 grain arrow on 45lb and 65lb bows.

Different arrows for different bows.

[Whump]

Whump Sez: Here is a trap you can fall in to: You can add point weight until your arrow is just slightly out of tune. By this I mean at 15 yds you can have a tuned arrow but at 10 yds you can have quite a bit of paradox and lose penetration on a  shot---as in right under your stand or 5 to 8 yds from your stand. Before you except the fact you have successfully added point weight, shoot your arrows into foam starting at 5 yds and work your way back looking for nock left or right arrows and be sure you are not experiencing an excessive paradox problem due to adding all the weight to the point. I ran into this  last season as I was getting good penetration at 15 and 20 yds but it dropped in half directly under my stand out to 10yds. I was shooting 30" 5575 goldtips 5" high back shield with 300gns up front from a 54lb r@d long bow at 28" draw with Simmons Intersceptor heads. I had failed to test the hunting set up close to the target. I recovered every deer I shot but was initially puzzled by the lack of penetration up close. I would get a pass thru at 15-20yds and the penetration would drop to 12" under my stand and at 10yds.  Remember; the more weight you add to the point the more your arrow has to bend to get that weight started so adjust your spine accordingly. If you feel the need for added weight I would use weight tubes and keep point weight moderate. But what ever you do, shoot the set up close to the target and be sure you are not experiencing added paradox on your close shots. I shot heavy hard wood shafting up until last season, 675 and 700gns out of a 60lb D style long bow with 160gns up front and I got excellent penetration  on deer and hogs from directly under my stand out to 25yds. There is a lot of arguments out there about weight just up front but that wood shafting had the weight distributed over the entire shaft with a moderate 160gns on the tip,so test your set up at different yardages before you take it to the hunt.       A well tuned arrow is the ticket to success, so keep it real.  HUnt safe.