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Author Topic: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?  (Read 749 times)

Offline ken denton

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Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« on: May 13, 2007, 03:32:00 PM »
I am going to try some Carbon Express Heritage shafts and need to know which one will be better for my set up which is; Cut arrow 29" and draw 47# @ 28" longbow 64" shooting a 4 Blade broadhead.My bow shoots a 470 grain arrow at 160 fps with a helical rw fletch. Thanks, Ken 150 or 250 ?
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2007, 04:40:00 PM »
sounds like a 150 to me.. i think 250 would be way to stiff...is will also depend on how your riser is cut, if your using fast flight or not.. i feel pretty confident it would be the 150... they are an excellent shaft.
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2007, 04:49:00 PM »
How much do you want the arrow to weigh???
250s would be stiff but you could use the 100 gr brass inserts and a 200 gr head and get a high FOC and a super penetrating shafts.

Those are guesses based on my experience.
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2007, 05:02:00 PM »
mudfeather is correct...you could go with a 250 and load up on point weight....i think the 150 would put you at about the same weight arrow your shooting now with a 125 grain head....so you would still be pushing 10 grains per pound with the 150...... good luck...
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2007, 05:06:00 PM »
I use ff string and I want the arrow with a 125gr BH to weight total about 470 to 500 grains.Riser is 1/8 " out! Thanks
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2007, 05:20:00 PM »
i'm thinking you'll be just short of 470... but you'll be pushing 600 or more with a ce250...
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2007, 05:32:00 PM »
150 but start full length a trim to tune you may get close to 29", unlike aluminum you must adjust spine by arrow length, point weight has much less impact on flex.
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2007, 05:59:00 PM »
katman..is correct...they stiffen up very quickly if cut too short... i'm shooting a 30" ce 150 arrow... my draw is around 26 and im pulling 45#..dacron string..longbow... 175 up front.... they fly real good.. so I'm thinking you should be real close with a 29" arrow and 125 grains up front... these shafts will accept the internal goldtip weights that screw into the back of the point insert also.. that makes for some real easy fine tuning.....
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2007, 09:44:00 PM »
I shoot the 150s out of a very high perfromance recurve. They are 29.5"s long and I shoot 175 up front. I am sure you will need the 150s cut to at least 30"s and 225 up front or more for good flight. Thye are pretty stiff and unless your LB is cut way past center you will need a lot more than 125 up front. Shawn
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2007, 10:38:00 PM »
Shawn, always read your posts on arrow combos for bows, man you must have had a ton of bows over the years, thanks for sharing the knowledge. Question, I find that once the carbon shaft is dialed in bareshafting right on that I can go up or down about 75 grains and still get good results bareshaft and fletched, Have you found this also?
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2007, 05:53:00 AM »
I'm shooting the 150's at 29" out of a 42# longbow and ended up with 310 gr. out front.I should have went 30" on shaft length. Leland

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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2007, 06:31:00 AM »
I'm gloser to Leland!  These 150s act stiff for me.  I am getting the best results with a 31" shaft and 200 grain point.  50@28" center shot Hatfield take-down.  Leave them long until bare shafting tells you other wise.
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Offline ken denton

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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2007, 02:09:00 PM »
Thanks for info, guys. Ken
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2007, 02:45:00 PM »
I just ordered the Carbon Express Heritage 150.Thanks for the great info. Ken
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #14 on: May 14, 2007, 03:02:00 PM »
Here's another thanks to Shawn for sharing his experience...

I know I always rely on it to make tuning a new bow easier...

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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2007, 04:28:00 PM »
Katman, I have found that with the weaker spined carbons, ones with a deflection of around 500 or so meaning 20 or so either way. Once ya get up o the stiff shafts 400 and up 340 and so on they tend to get more finicky unless ya really jump the point weight. I know I could shoot a carbonwood 4000 cut to 29"s out of all my bows from 62-70 pounds with 225 up front, but could do the same with 350 up front as well. I have owned well over 100 bows in the last 7-8 years and have shot almost every carbon out there. I am on a CE Heritage kick right now and liking them a lot!! Shawn
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Re: Carbon Express Heritage shaft size?
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2007, 09:50:00 PM »
Yes the CX Heritage is a very good shaft, peformed well in Africa for me, I am trying the skinny Axis and MFX now footing with Aluiminum, using 340 and 300, depending on what arrow weight I want, and 300 total point weight but they shoot well with 200-350 up front.
Sorry to highjack the thread. I'll stop now.
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