what would you do(tresspassers)

[owlbait]

There was a scent company that had a blocking scent. Come to think of it, there is Deer Deter, smells like rotten eggs. Did some rags in it and drap on limbs down the property  or in a semi circle near his stand. Then hang some cheap aluminum pie pans like wind chimes near there. The sight of the shiny, spinning, and noisy pans has been a proven deer deterent near illegal hunt sites. And of course, keep taking pics, set your cameras high with a ladder facing down for your pics.

[Dustin Waters]

Here is another idea to disable the 4 wheeler.  Get yourself a 2x4 run some hefty nails through it so they stick up.  Place the board nail side up on your property just across from their opening.  Place a sign that says beware of nails.  When they drive over it retrieving their poached deer their four wheelers will be ruined on all fours.  You can also get some of the insulation board (the pink stuff)  Place it in the trees directly across from their stands so they can not see on to your property.  Those sheets are relatively inexpensive and can be replaced very easily.

[ridgerunner_sc]

This is a very bad situation..  the real way to go about this to first talk to them  calmly tell
your side of the deal
second pictures video car and truck plate numbers
dates times keep a log invite some friends over to hunt for back up and more vitneses..very important.keep a log of events..  notify law enforcement several times insist they come out ...
trespassers with weapons ...
this is a long a frustrating process ...
if all this fails you file a civil action in court..  all these snide comments dont amount to a hill o beans...  and will only get you in trouble.......

[ridgerunner_sc]

ive been thru this here in south carolina,, dog hunters had the run of the state..its only just starting to change here...

[SteveB]

There is some really good advice from a few here.

Also some just plain ignorant comments.

[Kip]

I have a hunting club on all sides of my property.One group put stands on our line all around two sides of me but facing into their land. I had none on the line.I was not very happy but their property.Last year someone put up one on the line facing my property b/c behind theirs was too thick and I had a bottom so he had to shoot a deer on me.I saw one of the members and told him it was a slap in the face to do what he did to me b/c I had never given them any problems and had offered them to fill up with water whenever needed.It was moved the next week.My point talk to them before drastic measures taken often may work out.Kip

[Hud]

Ask the warden or other officials, what they need to make a case. If they put you off, ask your attorney and then follow his advice.

[Ragnarok Forge]

You have an in with the former director who posted on this thread. Let him help you.  

Lots of good advice here is true.  As for not knowing what were doing.  The Army spent a lot of money teaching me how to make people miserable and capitulate with little effort or manipulation.  Poachers and trespasser beware.

[Raging Water]

Uh, I like Indiana. I can drop by and chat with them. Send me a plane ticket.

Actually, if you know who it is then don't confront them. It will probably turn to a bad scene.

Send him a letter. State that someone has been on your land and you want any information he can give you about "who it might have been". Act like you have sent out several letters to several local residents.

State that when you find out "who it is" you will report them to the police.

That should be enough to have them "move on"

Matt

[daniel reynolds]

If your law enforcement is anything like it is here it is a total waste of time calling them about anything that's why we have to get very serious and put the fear of God in them where we hunt

[crotch horn]

You have your answer. Use the inside help offered to you. Let him help as much as possible. Most talking of injury are kidding but let us keep it real. No one should be injured or killed here including you. Let him do his thing & continue to get photos & it will resolve.

[joevan125]

A friend of mine and his dad were hunting there farm here in Alabama and his dad walked up on 3 guys gutting a very large buck.

They took off running and he fired his gun in the air a yelled for them to stop. The guy who shot the deer is the one who stopped.

The deer was laying over 500 yds from the property line and the game warden said the buck looked like it fell where it was shot.

These guys hired a attorney and one of the reason's i think is because my friends dad is very rich, owning over 12,000 acrs of land and also a very successful construction business.

He is also a very prominate member of the community and im sure they figured they could get him to settle out of court.

I never knew the excact amount but my best friend told me it was just under $200,000 dollars.

So before you take the law into your own hands i would remember there's lots of people who will do strange thing's for money these days.

[magnus]

Everyone seems to forget this guy is a hunters safety instructor. Talking to him isn't going to change his ethics or values. No matter how you stack cow patties they're are still cow patties! Practice what you preach! Like stated previously that is one of the Ten commandments of hunters safety. The best advice on here is from the former game official who offered to help. Lots of funny solutions but this could get ugly very quickly! If he knows you know, he will.just find another way to be a cow patty. It's a shame for sure but that's life. Goodluck!
Magnus

[Brian Krebs]

Trespass laws vary from state to state. You need to know what your law says.
 Then you need to keep the references to it; so an officer with a dim memory will understand what your saying.

 These guys are from what you say; on their property- shooting deer on yours.
  In this state- you can only tag an animal that you have legally taken. That does not mean the first guy to the animal; and it does not mean that if you illegally shoot an animal you have any legal claim to it.

 However- here is this state there is a law about 'chattel' (a movable item of personal property, as a piece of furniture, an automobile, or a head of livestock).
 You have a right here to retrieve your chattel from the property of another- that is; if your horse or cow or donkey or other property goes onto another persons property - you have a right to go on that property to retrieve it.
 Here in this state- game animals have a monetary value; a deer is worth $250 ; and elk $500 - so they can slap you with that value if your breaking the law and poach one; or leave it to rot.
 So- according to ~some~ fish and game officers here you have an express ~right~ to retrieve your game off the property of another.

 But - like I say - its not YOUR property until you legally take it- that is to kill it. Then if you let it lay- you can be fined. So retrieval of it to protect your property - your chattel - is legal.

 Now using an atv or a truck or however - leaves the person doing the retrieving liable for the damage he does with the machine.

 If the fish and game officer looked at the pictures and said they were not good enough to identify the people in them- he is a slacker.
 He could have gone over to the people and said quite accurately that 'pictures were taken of the offenders; and that is why I am here talking with you' ; followed by 'this time the land owner is going to wave his right to prosecute you: but in the future- we will use the evidence I have preserved from this case - in addition to the new case against you- and that will mean two violations per person.' 'Stay OFF that mans land unless you have written permission or legal action WILL be taken against you!'.

HOW MANY POKER GAMES ARE WON WITHOUT THE HAND BEING SEEN?

 But it could well be that the officer is a relative of Barney Fife or that he knows the person your dealing with; and is covering his back.

 Going the route of the ex-employee that is willing to help- seems like the best idea.

[stevewills]

well i fallowed the advise of one and put the wanted signs with their pics at all the grcery stores and the conservation clubs,come to find out he is no longer a safety instuctor..so now we play the head games with him and do it legally