Do broadheads drop less than field tips?

[Joshua Lee]

My broadheads hit about the same as FT's at 20 yards but when I back up to 30yds they seem to hit a little higher.  Do the blades (zwickey eskimo, same weight as FT) keep the arrow from dropping as much over greater distances?
Thanks
Josh

[lpcjon2]

They could plane and keep them up,are they consistent and accurate above 20yrds.

[Joshua Lee]

Yep, they are flying true and as consistent as my field tips (maybe better), just hitting a little higher.  Should be no problem to adjust my brain to shoot lower, I guess I'm just curios why. I was even thinking that maybe the blades give a little lift before they start spinning.  I've only shot them out to 30yds so far (all the room I got in my back yard).

[wingnut]

Actually you are probably just a tad nock low.  The points of the same weight will fly the same if the bow and arrow combo is tuned.

Mike

[Pete McMiller]

Have you weighed both your field tips and broadheads?  Just because the package says they are xxx grains doesn't mean they are.  Grizzly 160 El Grande's for example weigh 170-171 gr. out of the package most likely to take into account the material you take off to sharpen.

[joe skipp]

What Wingnut sez...I never see any difference with same weight heads, points or broadheads with my arrows. A properly tuned arrow that spins true should fly true with both type heads.

[Bowwild]

I agree with the tuning responses. If the arrow is well tuned to your bow set-up, if your form is correct and consistent, and the broadheads are true and identical, the field tips should impact the same as the broadheads. I tune my rig until this is the case.

I have experienced broadhead flight different from field tips -- high, low, and planing right or left. In every case my arrow and bow weren't tuned to each other.  Even for a target set up, after I've bare shafted or paper tuned I always prove my set-up with a broadhead.

[Joshua Lee]

Good point, no I haven't weighed them or sharpened them yet. Need to get a scale, but I've already spent my Hunting money allotment for the year twice over.  If another package comes in the mail the wife might go on a serious shoe buying spree   .  

The tunning thing makes sense to me, mostly because I've read it so many times, but logically why would two totally different shaped objects that weigh the same fly the same?  I can't wrap my head around that one.  For example if I took a paper plane that weighed 1 pound and a rock that weighed 1 pound and threw them they wouldn't fly the same, right?  Anyway, I'm thinking to much and really,, I'm pretty happy with the way my arrows are hitting the target for a newbie.  But the nerd in me wants to know why, why, why.. shut up nerd,, lets go make a blood trail  

[Bowwild]

Joshua,
Your thought process makes sense to me.  However, a 1 pound paper airplane would have a tremendous amount of surface area (compared to the rock). The metal broadhead and the metal field tip are so different in scale and size as your paper/rock analogy so the planing impacts, at the speeds and distances we shoot bows doesn't show up.

I'll share an anecdote from the just crowned champ of the Oregon State Archery championship.  This young man shoots a broadhead his grandfather designed. He groups are 4 inches with the field tip and the broadhead at 80 yards. I talked to his grandfather yesterday.

[Joshua Lee]

Nerd here again, At 20yds I see no difference, at 30yds about 6 inches higher than field tips.  In the grand scheme of things I'm ok with that because I don't plan on shooting past 25 in the woods and if I do accidentally shot at 30 (thinking I'm at 25) I should be spot on.  Thanks for the input,, the nerd may win out and do some tuning eventually.

[Joshua Lee]

Thanks bowwild, 80yds that's amazing.

[SveinD]

I think the thing you did not think aboust is that if you strap a 3 lbs pole to both the 1 lb rock and the 1 lb paper plane, and launch it from a cannon you would see less of a difference than just throwing them with no stabilization unit^^

There would be a small differance, yes, but not much with the energy vs mass ratio an a bow..
Not enough to make a difference at 20' .. I think  

Besides, a rock is less aerodynamic than a fieldtip, but I see your point in that  

[Art B]

Your broadhead slows the rotation of the arrow down creating less overall wind resistance of the fletching. At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it    . ART B

[Bowwild]

Yep. His grand dad has taught me more since 2005 than I learned since the mid-60's. You can see him in action (Grand Dad) on Strickland's Archery Adventures - Sportsman's Channel. He has a website also and you can find the broadhead he designed there also.

[Joshua Lee]

Good point sveinD
And Art B I think you might be on to something, that kinda makes sense.
Thanks

[AkDan]

I saw this thread and got thinking....

Laws of physics you'd THINK that EVENTAULLY with all the wind resistence eventaully the broadhead and feather combination is going to slow your arrow down faster then shooting field points everything else being equal. A spinning broadhead has to (you'd think) create more wind resistance then a spinning fieldpoint, a simple theory atleast in my very uneducated mind LOL.   At what point that is I wouldnt have a clue, 30 yards? 50? who knows.   Boring monday off for me can you tell  :D .

afterall when you look at land speed attempts, they arent wearing big baggy flappy cloths etc.  They take every precaution to smooth out wind resistance, which would be the case in a field point vs broadhead.