bleeders or not

[stevewills]

wife found me some old bear greenies and was wondering if you use the bleeders or not.whats the advantage of using them and the advantage of not using them

[Brent Hill]

I use the greenies and the blue 145's without bleeders because I only shoot 49 lbs and the bleeders for light pounded bows may impair pass throughs.  If you shoot a higher pounded bow, the bleeders would give you a bigger cut and depending where you hit, a potentially better blood trail.

[Dave Lay]

i think bear designed them to actually help penetration, by cutting a pathway for the shaft, the bear bleeders i believe are also designed really thin to break if a solid bone is hit.. i always used the bleeders when I shot the razorheads

[cbCrow]

I used the bleeders when I shot the razorheads until I shot a deer and had to be extra careful because the bleeder was missing off the head. I found it in the rib cage and never shot those heads again. Far too many choices to risk injuring yourself. Just my opinion!

[Dave Lay]

cbcrow makes a good point, i also had bleeders come off and break in the animal

[Ravenhood]

I have used them and not used them didnt see any differance.

[BWD]

Not trying to highjack this thread, but does anyone have experience shooting critters with four blade stingers, in reguards to the bleeder staying in place?

[warbird]

I think bleeders make an entry wound channel that is less likely to clot up. I also believe they would be less likely to pass through, the more blades the more resistance even though it's a cutting edge.

[Bill Turner]

Been shooting the Bear Razorheads for years. Just don't like the bleeders, so I don't use them, and havn't for a long time. To flimsy, and to be quite honest with you, they are a pain to get in place without torqueing the blade. I know I can file them down to get a better fit, but refuse to do so. I've had no problem killing game quickly without them.

[SlowBowinMO]

BWD, two totally different design approaches.  The Razorhead bleeders were intentionally designed to be fragile and break away on hard contact, the Stinger bleeders are an integral part of the head.

And to stay on topic, when I shot Razorheads I used the bleeders.

[BWD]

Thanks Tim, I knew the razorhead design allowed for the bleeder to break away. I have some stingers, that actually came from you, and am aware the bleeder is captured by design, but was curious if anyone had experienced bleeder blade breakage,etc. with this design.

[straitera]

What Bill said 33 years worth. Hopefully, I've given away all my bleeder blades. 2-blade Bears are easy to sharpen & true flyers.

[Keith Zimmerman]

I don't use the bleeders.  I don't like the idea of the bleeders breaking off and leaving a potentially fatal slow death from infection if you make a marginal hit in the leg or something.

[Trooper]

I use the bleeders; they make a big hole. The key is to get them "scary" sharp so they don't become a friction anchor.

[WRV]

I've shot them both without the bleeders....Randy

I used to use one with the bleeder and the rest in my back quiver without. They were a pain to rip out if I needed a second shot. I hit a deer once with the one with the bleeder, 60 pound takedown, cedar arrow ten yards, the arrow thwacked loud on the hit, broke off at the point with no penetration. The next arrow without the bleeder flew through the deer like it wasn't there.  The deer went down in about 80 yards. What I wonder, would that arrow have punched through the rib and not torqued the arrow the way it did, without the bleeder. I have hit ribs other times, but that was the only time that the arrow broke on impact.

[levibear]

I have shot them both ways.  In the "old days" some said the bleeders  make the broadhead whistle, that was not my experience........Please look for the bleeder when you are dressing the animal they sometimes detach inside the critter  

[SuperK]

I have used them with and without the bleeders.  I have gotten some great blood trails with the bleeders.  I also once hit a big doe tight behind the shoulder and didn't get a pass-thru.  On closer inspection, the bleeder blade snapped on one side and turned just about sideways.  That surely didn't help out with penetration.  I have found out with some arrow/bow combos that I didn't get good arrow flight with the bleeders in.  It might had been a tuning issue, too.  If the bleeders don't "snap" in place, they will "buzz" when you shoot 'em.  The bleeders are getting hard to find.  If you need some, shoot me a PM.