man woman wild (trad bow hunt)

[JEJ]

Dave19113, I think you make some good points.

I've been watching the survival shows lately, and have tried to just lower my expectations, realize these are TV shows, and keep an open mind about learning something. Of course they are edited to build suspense, drama, etc. to try to hook you for an hour. Come on, it would be a tall order for even a Comanche on horseback to run down and arrow a turkey, what chance does a dude running through sage brush really have? But a few minutes later he used his bow and arrow on a cottontail at 10 feet, and it looked like he got a piece of it too, but the rabbit ran off a ways with his arrow and got away. I realize these shows are staged and edited, but I think I have learned something I didn't know each time I watched one. Fire starting, ideas about shelter, did you know you can boil water in a plastic bottle over a fire and the bottle doesn't melt. I didn't. Yep, parts of these shows are good for a laugh sometimes, but if you can watch one and not learn some survival skill about primitive living, health safety, woodcraft, etc., my hat is off to you. Plus they are filmed most of the time in parts of the world where I sure would like to be with my longbow and lots of arrows, and seeing that country on a survival level is kind of cool.

Oh, and Killdeer, I believe you to be quiet and deadly ... and funny!

[chrisg]

Those shows are so dependant on who pays the piper.There are only three that are worth much that we get here in SA. Bear Grylls, Les Stroud and Ray Mears. All of them are honest and clear about their intention. Bear has caught flak for staging stuff but if you listen to what he says and read the warning posted before the show he is doing stuff to show how HIGHLY SKILLED SPEC OPS GUYS CAN DO IT. Then he goes on to talk of the principles behind those techniques and how ordinary folk can use them. Ray Mears and Les Stroud do the same from slightly different angles. They are extremely capable and humble people, none of them does it with the macho chest beating c*** one gets on the 'reality' shows.Which is why I watch them. There are a great many men AND WOMEN on this site and others whose skill and bushcraft far exceeds that shown on the trash tv reality shows. Skills that were taught and are still taught by Scouting and other groups. Unfortunately so much of the ra ra TV is about sensation, backstabbing and shock/fluff garbage that I prefer to go for a walk..It all cheapens the very real skill and physical effort that the true experts have put in to create the territory that later producers came to exploit. Enough of a rave for today!
Chrisg

[Osagetree]

Maybe he meant composite but said compound. I think a long stick would have produced more fish than his bow, but the bow made for good drama on TV.

The thing I don't like about some of the survival shows is if I were in a situation; I would not try some of the risky stuff they advise. If you're trying to survive you shouldn't put your life at risk,,, should you?

And I like taking my wife bow hunting as she is great company and hunts as well as I. As far as Ms. Hawk,,, I'd take her along too,,, anytime!  

Originally posted by Hookeye:
Trying to hunt, with a woman along, expecting her to be quiet (let alone on a stalk).


Hookeye: be afraid. Be very, very afraid. We can be silent. And deadly. Reference Killdeer, above.    

PS I don't watch survival shows where the people call each other "baby".

[Buckeye Trad Hunter]

Originally posted by Osagetree:
Maybe he meant composite but said compound. I think a long stick would have produced more fish than his bow, but the bow made for good drama on TV.

The thing I don't like about some of the survival shows is if I were in a situation; I would not try some of the risky stuff they advise. If you're trying to survive you shouldn't put your life at risk,,, should you?

Just like the bow made for good drama on tv so does some of the risky stuff.  Most times the guys will come right out and say that they do not advise anyone to try some of the riskier things they do.  Sometimes however, there is a risk/reward factor you have to account for.  There may be a situation where your only chance of surviving is to do something that puts your life at risk.

[Groundpounder]

Yeah they are good shows all of them. but youll never know how its really gonna go down unless your in the situation. les stroud is completely alone an does all his own camera work. but if you were really in a survival situation. who has time to film but on the flip side it would really help pass the time. Strouds "life line" is usually camped about a mile away but if something bad happened a mile is pretty damn far especially in some of that thick jungle .

[PAPA BEAR]

i think i love you huntryx.      :D

[GingivitisKahn]

Whatever. The show is there for entertainment (as opposed to hard core survival education) and it accomplishes its objective. That one, Dual Survival, Man vs. Wild, Survivorman - they are all about entertainment and all, to one extent or another, provide entertainment.

One interesting thing about Man, Woman, Wild is that it attracts spouses and daughters (in my case and I've heard others say the same) that might never watch anything similar.

Sometimes it's just as useful to see things that fail as it is to see things that succeed. Their aborted attempt to hunt turkeys is still instructive though it nets them no birds.

I'd rather watch this or any of the other outdoors skills shows than just about anything on network TV.

[GingivitisKahn]

Double post.