Hunting adversaries

[Mike Vines]

Originally posted by GingivitisKahn:
You left your stand up on private land and found someone in it?

There is just certain things as a sportsman you just don't do.

[GingivitisKahn]

Originally posted by YORNOC:
Kahn, three times on different private pieces of land, and one public. Even on the public, it is legal to leave the stand in as long as it is removed 30 days from the end of the season.
But it doesn't matter in my eyes public or private. If someone went through all the work of scouting and putting up a stand, I would NEVER even think about sitting in it if I came upon it.
I don't know how these guys think. Respect your fellow hunters, you know?  I was polite in all cases, no matter how angry I was at the time. .

I'm not defending people using your stand but respecting other hunters goes farther than that.  Have you considered that as annoying as it is to find someone else in your stand (on public land) - maybe leaving your stand on public land is bothering someone else's hunt.  

You find a great tree or whatever on public land - do you really think you're the only one that might want to hunt there?  Obviously the other guy got there first that morning intending to hunt that spot.  He shouldn't get in your stand but maybe you shouldn't leave it there in the first place.

On private land, that's a whole other thing but claiming a spot on public land (which is what is done when people leave stands all over the place) - that's not respectful either, in my opinion.

[YORNOC]

You okay Kahn?  Was it you I found in my stand?
As I said I was polite and didn't jump down anyones throat. EVEN ON PRIV LAND!! It is perfectly legal to hang a stand on public land. If the guy had planned to hang a stand there, it would have been there.  And if I walked up to set one up that morning and another stand was there, I would walk away and respect that someone else found it first and put the time in. Been there many times.  Step back and look in the mirror my friend. Maybe it is time for you to decide who is being respectful and who is not...not me.

[YORNOC]

I just read that and it doesn't sound too good. Sorry Kahn , I didn't mean for it to sound nasty, but I guess I wrote it that way. I was writing with a smile...no hard feelings I hope!!!!!

[Footed Shaft]

Just last season i had someone back out all 6 of my sky hook lag bolts and put his home made angle iron steps on the tree so he could climb into my stand!! ( private land).
 I lost a trail camera and a blind this past season again on 600 acres of private land!!
 I have had a ladder stand ( made of wood) cut from the tree and smashed all to he!! at the base of my tree.( public land- i was young and silly).
 I have LOTS more but my blood pressure is already rising !!   :(     Bill

[Mike Vines]

I've had my stands stolen off of private property, illegal stands placed on my lease, a guy walk up to, and stand ontop of my bait pile and look around, a rifle hunter finish off my bow shot (killing shot) deer and claim the 9 point, people walk in, on state land, after shooting hours, sit down within 100 yards and smoke a few cigarrets then move on and to top it off, I had preformed a very successful stalk, and had closed the distance to 40 yards on a nice 6 point, and had the deer lift his head, and run off.  The reason it ran off...The guy who previously had walked up to my bait pileand stood on it, had decided that the deer weren't moving that evening, and packed it in a hour before dark, and drove out of the woods into the field I was lowcrawling thru.   He wasn't invited back to the lease after that.  Both incidents with him were on the same day.  After reliving all of those, it makes me wonder why I continue to look forward to hunting season every year.  Oh Yeah, Now I know why...I meet new and very interesting people everyyear, that make me forget all the bad things that have happened.  I'm sure there are plenty more, but time has allowed them to slip my memory.

[GingivitisKahn]

Originally posted by YORNOC:
You okay Kahn?  Was it you I found in my stand?
As I said I was polite and didn't jump down anyones throat. EVEN ON PRIV LAND!! It is perfectly legal to hang a stand on public land. If the guy had planned to hang a stand there, it would have been there.  And if I walked up to set one up that morning and another stand was there, I would walk away and respect that someone else found it first and put the time in. Been there many times.  Step back and look in the mirror my friend. Maybe it is time for you to decide who is being respectful and who is not...not me.

Yes, I'm fine thanks. How are you?

Leaving a stand on public land isn't a question of legality it's a question of manners.  My point is:

1) yes it is rude and lame to get in another guy's stand (private land or public) and he shouldn't have done it.

*and*

2) your leaving your stand on public land can also be considered rude (opinions certainly differ).  It claims a spot on public land (his land as much as it is your land) and intrudes on others' ability to hunt there.

I can't tell you how many times in the past, I've seen some (perfectly legal) ladder stand or hang-on or whatever left for months on end in a great spot.  So what is a hunter to do - get to the great spot in the morning, see the EMPTY stand (that may continue to be empty for weeks on end) and move on?

You mentioned that you'd choose another spot if some guy beat you to the area which is cool - I'd hope most of us here at TradGang would do the same - but not all hunters would.  Lol - some guy carted his clanky stand in this morning and set that up 30 yards from my son.

But even if the empty stand is owned by someone polite like you, there's no way for anyone else to know that.  Another hunter arriving in the morning has to choose to sit there knowing the stand owner may show up and get ugly, or sit on top of him - whatever.

Anyway - I'm not trying to ruffle your feathers, it's just that seeing public land festooned with empty deer stands is a pet peeve of mine.

[GingivitisKahn]

Originally posted by YORNOC:
I just read that and it doesn't sound too good. Sorry Kahn , I didn't mean for it to sound nasty, but I guess I wrote it that way. I was writing with a smile...no hard feelings I hope!!!!!

No harm done and no hard feelings.  These threads get boring if we all agree 100% anyway.

   

[YORNOC]

Hey, thats a heck of an idea...set up a hang on just above another guys existing stand! I would not be able to help wetting my pants with laughter if anybody ever pulled that on me....but I'd have to jab a zwickey up through the grate every now and then to make sure he's doing okay.