Cold weather Tent for camping

[GingivitisKahn]

I like the Timberline 4 which is what my son and I will probably be using in a few weeks here but to rate that for 4 people is the hight of optimism.  I think all tent makers do that and it never fails to annoy me.

Don't know about you guys but in a tent like this one, I sleep with my head by the door - if there are two of us, one has his head by the door on the left side of the tent and the other on the right.  The diagram that shows four sleepers has all four laying head to toe sideways in the tent (the peak is over your belly and your head and feet are where the walls meet the floor).  Yeah right!

Sorry - that topic provokes an insta-rant from me.

[nel]

If you are looking for an extremely (yup - extremely) comfortable sleep, and want something that is light and compact to carry and very easy to set up and take down, I don't think you can beat a Hennessey Hammock.

I spent 10 days in one (with the cold weather attachment in Northern ontario this fall moose hunting and I have NEVER had a better sleep in the outdoors. During those 10 days we had everything: wind, rain, below freezing and snow (and even some nice warm weather).

I strung a tarp over one end so  I had some shelter to store my gear and get dressed in and it worked very well.

I really need to emphasize how comfortable that hammock is. It is better than most beds I've slept in, let alone camping in the bush.

[David Yukon]

Nel, where do you put the stove;)
This tent look like a good one, at 20# with the center pole, wich weight 4#, it make a tent at only 16# to sleep 3-4 people. Not super light but look realy sturdy!
 http://www.tipitent.com/mountain_tipi.htm

[nel]

David

haven't figgered that part out yet! 8^)

[GingivitisKahn]

Hammocks are great and work in cold weather too but there is a learning curve.  It's worth the time but just throwing a sleeping bag inside and climbing in - that's not going to cut it.

[Steve O]

I have a 4-man Kifaru.  There is PLENTY of room for 2-guys plus gear.  With that said, I'd LOVE to have an 8-man as it would be palacial without much more of a weight penalty.  I am in the process of replacing the 4-man with an 8-man AND a SuperTarp/Annex to cover all bases.  With what you are looking at (Para/Annex), you are not going to find anything in the same weight class or size that is going to have stove capability.

[Stiks-n-Strings]

After much tought and looking around on the net I decided to forgo the pack thing for now and get a 10X10 wall tent.

  I found a canvas wall tent with mesh windows for summer time and stove jack for winter time and everthing in between. I think it will be great for deer camp.
 
 I'm still gonna get a supertarp in the future or the 4 man tipi but for the price I found this at I can't let it go.
 
 Thanks for all the input.

 Stiks