i agree total surprise is the best, if you've been hunting with a compound, you may have to change one thing, it's not always possible, and sometimes they may show up anywhere, but after going trad 20 years ago, i found it better to put my stands as close to the trail as i could, the shots are closer, the arrow gets there quicker, them dropping isn't as crucial, and them walking is much simplier. i know shooting a compound, people feel they have a better cahce with the wind, that may be, most of us don't feel comfortable shooting past 25 yard.