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Author Topic: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)  (Read 285 times)

Offline broken_cynic

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Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« on: October 30, 2010, 03:23:00 AM »
Hello all, nice site you have going here! Always nice to find another good forum.

15 years or so ago I was in junior high and fascinated by bows, particularly crossbows. I grew up on a family farm, but no one in my local family were hunters and my parents knew better than to spend already scarce money on my latest interest as I would be on to the next within weeks. An uncle was kind/foolish enough to let me have his old compound bow, but at 60lb draw I (a skinny punk at the time) couldn't swing it.

After eight years in the USAF I'm beginning to get myself fairly well sorted and I find that archery is one of those interests that has actually hung on for the long haul. This time around however, I find that it is the simplicity and craft of stick bows that holds the most attraction for me.

I have read the newbie article and a good variety of posts here and I am fairly confident about these things:

-I want to learn the basics right from the beginning. For me, that is probably going to mean finding a person to teach and critique me as I am not self-disciplined enough to learn well from books/video.
-I will likely be shooting at targets, just for fun for years before I ever take up hunting.
-I am right handed, but left eye dominant. Nonetheless, I intend to at least start out with a right-handed bow as a left-handed shooting position feels constrained somehow (a mental block I should work on at some point.) I will almost certainly be shooting instinctively anyhow as my eyes are not really up to precision jobs. I fail certain varieties of depth perception tests and when I went through some of the eye dominance tests I had difficulty getting things to resolve to just one image. Ah well, I wasn't looking to get into competitive shooting anyhow. =)

I'm in the habit lately of buying the best quality that I can reasonably afford, so my first inclination was to get a good idea of draw length/weight and order a new Martin Savannah or Howard Hill as both are great looking bows to my eye and seem to have plenty of fans among more experienced archers. However, when I finally took a good look in the classifieds here I realized that I could easily get more bang for my buck there than in buying new.  

I think that at 6'1 and in reasonably good shape, I could handle a 40-50lb draw to start out, perhaps a little more. I prefer longbows for aesthetic reasons and I think that I'm probably looking for a fairly long-limbed bow due to my height and the fact that I won't be maneuvering in the woods anytime soon. I know that I will be told to try before I buy, so my first question and the main reason for this post is to ask whether there is anyone reasonably close to this area (I'm in Belleville, IL just across the river from Saint Louis) who wouldn't mind letting me do just that? (Or perhaps north-central Ohio? That's home for me and I'll be in that area over the holidays.)

I also have a second, less immediate question: is there any reason (aside from personal preference, yours or mine) that you would recommend against a Savannah or an HH as a first bow?

Thanks!

Offline TC in Spfld

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2010, 07:35:00 AM »
Have you not discovered Town Hall Archery?  They're located off of Frank Scott Parkway on the SW corner of B'ville.  Good folks that run the place with a trad background and trad shooters that frequent the place.  Check it out!

Offline broken_cynic

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2010, 07:45:00 AM »
No, I hadn't... I will have to go check them out on my way to breakfast/dinner (I'm coming off a mid shift.)  All I had found so far was Summit over on the other side of StL (and I hadn't bothered driving over there as it appears that everything they carry has wheels) and a little note about Old School Archery down in New Athens which sounded promising, but has no web presence. Thanks!

Offline John Krause

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2010, 10:06:00 AM »
Go to Town Hall this morning. On Sat mornings a group of stickbow guys shoot. There will be some there today even though it's huntin time. They are there every Sat from 9 to about 11. Great group of guys, just introduce yourself.
When a man shoots with a bow it is own vigor of body that drives the arrow,  his own mind controls the missile's flight......His trained muscles and toughened thews have done the work

Offline doowop

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2010, 02:19:00 PM »
Nice meetin ya Kent!

Offline John Krause

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2010, 08:07:00 PM »
John,
You didn't scare him away did ya?   :)  Will he be back?   :)
When a man shoots with a bow it is own vigor of body that drives the arrow,  his own mind controls the missile's flight......His trained muscles and toughened thews have done the work

Offline doowop

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2010, 12:47:00 PM »
Don't know. He dinged his arm pretty good!

Offline broken_cynic

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 12:59:00 PM »
Good to meet you guys as well John, thanks for a very warm welcome and for letting me play with your toys. Now I just have to get my own.

John (the other one...) I will be back, thanks for the 'go now' post as I doubt I would have made it out there that morning without that last little prod and I'm glad I went. A great group of guys as you said!

Now I understand why starting with a low weight bow gets pounded into newbies. I am tentatively thinking of picking up a pair of left-handed 30# or 35# Samick bows (one Stingray recurve and one longbow, model TBD) in order to see which I like better and to practice form at a nice easy draw weight.

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Re: Anyone in SW IL or StL area? (newbie has some learnin' to do)
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2010, 01:45:00 PM »
I sent a link to this thread to a friend who lives in SW Illinois so hopefully you'll hear from him.

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