Yeah, I should have known better on that. Ha. When we went into the farm the ground was frozen solid. After spending a few hours walking around the ground thawed. My truck went right up to the anxles; the one we used to try to get mine out got buried; then another, etc.. I can't remember but I think we had three out of five trucks stuck. I had to call the landowner and tell him we turned over his field for him but wouldn't charge him for it. Another side note, that landowner Gun spoke of above in Alberta emailed me the next fall to tell me he was sitting in one of the trees I ribboned off for whitetails and had a 330 inch elk walk by and he got him. I usually pick the stand locations because of the terrain features so you never know what might walk by. BW