wensel woodsman vs. snuffer

[Chimaster]

I've shot 95% of all my animals with 160gr snuffers. Bears, elk, pigs, deer, and turkeys with no problems. Roger always said why punch a little hole when you can make a great big hole.

[Rob DiStefano]

having used and blooded both snuffer and woodsman heads, imo i prefer the narrower and higher ratio woodsman.  i think wider cutting snuffers are great killers if the bow horsepower is good.

[684Kevin]

I've used both and both fly very well but always leaned to the snuffers.  They are quieter in flight than the woodsman.  Not as noticeable outside but when shooting indoors they are noticeably louder as they spin going down range.  I cannot tell if the sound is from the broadhead or if the broadhead is placing more resistance against the feather's rotation causing them to be louder.

[john fletch]

I find the WW to fly exceptionally well.  The snuffer and other solid blades are good heads and I have not used the WW on birds.  I find some brands of solid blade heads to 'plane' more than heads with open blades that allow air flow.

I don't use expensive heads on birds anyway - don't know why anyone would???

You are going to put more arrows in the dirt bird huntng so I use cheap stuff like MA-2 or some zwickies I got in bulk a long time ago.

They sharpen back quickly after a dirt lunch and back in business.  I try not to hit the body - too much meat loss.  I miss a lot of grouse and turkey trying or just the neck or head - but when I score - good eatin' !

To me its all about the walk in the woods anyway!!!

[mnbwhtr]

Snuffers on turkeys and WW on everything else. That said I'd look at bullheads for turkey as thats what I used on my last one and it worked great. You actually can SEE your kill area and they don't run off. I shoot 55# for turkeys but this fall my wife went out without me so I put a bullhead on her arrow and told her to shoot for the waddles and her 42# compund took the head right off her bird.

[TDHunter]

I would go with the wensel. I've used the snuffers and they have a pretty steep angle. The wensel are more low profile and will definately get better penatration, especially with 50lb. I also agree if there is any penatration concern with your set up, go with a two blade. I've found a big difference in penatraion. I used a 50 recurve with 3 blades on my first moose and was very disapointed in the penatration. Now anything bigger then deer it's two blade or 55lb plus

[**DONOTDELETE**]

Every deer I have taken is with 160 grn Snuffer out of a 50# bow even a #50 selfbow..

[Traddict]

Snuffer for birds.

[snow leopard]

i just wanted to say "thankyou" to all of you for the awesome response. i am going to go with the 160 grain snuffer for the big bird, although i may also try the woodsman 125 for deer next season. i will get some and see how they fly with my set-up. thanks again.

[chanumpa]

Both great heads that you just cant go wrong with.

[30coupe]

Either one will do just fine, but I'm using 160 Snuffers for turkeys. I want a great big hole in those @#@#$@#%$#$^& things!

[TEX-O-BOB]

Turkeys are birds. You shoot birds with a shotgun...   :D  
It really doesn't matter what head you shoot at turkeys. If you shoot em in the right spot, (the head) they die every time. Most guys take a body shot on turkeys. I think this is a huge mistake. The vital zone,as mentioned above, is the size of a Dixie cup and obscured by anatomy, feathers, and hard to read angles. The head is the same size and it's right out there in the open. You'll either miss clean or kill the bird. I've seen WAY too many turkeys R.B.I.'d when shot in the body. But, if you gotta take a body shot, shoot the  160 gr snuffer.  

[RC]

I like Simmons treesharks for Turkeys and I prefer the Woodsman on furry critters out of my low poundage bows.RC

[Friend]

For turkeys, my arrows are designed for penetration and the broadhead
selections are substantiated based on Muzzy’s Slash Factor equation. My real world experience has engrained in me to use the largest BH possible.


Slash Flactor = (BH Dia and/or width /2)*(# of blades)* (Depth for comp penetration)

Note: 6”s was the estimated depth for comp. penetration


   
BH for Turkeys   
Magnus 140 gn 2 Bl   SF = 7.5
Centaur 'Battle Axe' 214 gn 2 Bl   SF = 12.75
Magnus 'Snuffer' 185 gn 3 Bl   SF = 13.14
Big Jim's 'Big 3' 300 gn 3 Bl   SF = 13.5
Simmons 'Tree Shark' 190 gn 2 Bl    SF = 12
WW @ 150 gn 3 Bl SF = 9.0
   

***Immobilization is the key for consistent success***   (JMHO)

[snow leopard]

that's pretting interesting, and informative friend. thanks.