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Author Topic: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?  (Read 289 times)

Offline Tatorbones

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I know some bows are center cut vs. off to the side. So what is the difference in shooting these bows and why do some people prefer different cut of shelfs? I've only shot center cut shelfs so please teach me something new.

I know it is probly preference but in my mind wouldn't you have to aim different sense the arrow is not coming off straight from the bow.

Help please.

Why do some people like shooting non-center cut?

not sure what it is actually called.
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2011, 11:42:00 PM »
Center cut is more forgiving of spine variations.
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2011, 11:48:00 PM »
So how do you spine for a side cut? weak or stronger
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2011, 11:51:00 PM »
Weaker - if everything else is otherwise equal.  The arrow has to curve around the riser.
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2011, 11:52:00 PM »
So you would still aim the same or does your shooting style change for a bow like that?
 which type do you prefer
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2011, 11:54:00 PM »
I have had a few cut to center or past. While I find the bows easy to tune and fast. I prefer the more standard D shape bows or a slight R/D bow. The grip and shelf on these bows fit me better because it is what I started shooting first. The grip in the center or past center cut bows also often have a grip closer to a recurve grip. I find myself having to adjust for grip and speed and it feels awkward. I have one of these bows now that I just ordered a few weeks ago. I am trying to adjust to the bow. I have had three of these now and I am trying to adjust. I really like the bows cut short of center and may just stick with them in the end. I have one that is a real shooter for me and the shelf is just large enough to hold the arrow. The others are really quick and quiet and draw smooth but not sure if they are for me yet.
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 12:01:00 AM »
Don't go by me.  I'm a 60 & 70's recurve kind of guy and limited in my scope.  I find the center cut easier to tune to my liking as I can work the riser pad thickness to get the arrows where I am looking.  What you like may be worlds different and I'll be the first to admit I'm longbow challenged (unless it is a hybrid with a deep grip).
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 12:34:00 AM »
You don't aim to the side, even with no center cut at all.  You tune the arrows to go where you want.  As the arrow pass moves further from the center line of the bow (less center cut), you need a weaker/softer arrow to allow the arrow to paradox around the bow as it begins its flight.  I have both modern center cut bow and wood selfbows with no shelf and shoot them all the same way.  Instinctively, and am pretty near interchangable with each, but need to use arrows tuned to that set up.
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 12:45:00 AM »
Tuning is tuning does not matter how the shelf is cut, if at all. Aiming is exactly the same. The newer bows that are cut way past center are that way to accommodate stiff carbons.
I shoot wood only and find that the shelves cut past center still offer an advantage; a stiff arrow spends less time and distance in paradox and will offer greater penetration when properly tuned.
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 04:50:00 AM »
Bjorn, you answered a question that I didn't ask.  Pretty good insight, thanks.
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Re: ? about cut of the bow? Difference, and why do you like this style?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 07:54:00 AM »
Yes you did. I guess this is the archers paradox more then anything. The arrow is just spined weaker to allow for it you make it around the bow and get back on target. Vs. a center cut bow can be spined stiffer because it is a straight shot or more of a straight shot.

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