Primitive Arrows

[LongStick64]

Anyone know where I can get any stone tipped primitive arrows.

[SuperSlamChaser]

The most exciting way is to make your own. I'm in the learning process right now. It's tough but definitely rewarding in the end.

[SuperSlamChaser]

You should check out  http://paleoplanet69529.yuku.com/   they have a lot of helpful information. Raptorarchery.com makes primitive things and I believe there's a couple guys on here that might be willing to sell you some but primitive arrows get pricey.

[Cromm]

How many are you looking for and at what weight and draw lenght?
Thanks for your time.

[LongStick64]

Looking for 3 of them, anything over 27" weight between 45-55

[$bowhunter$]

i have a question for all you primative hunters. what poundage of bow do you shoot in relation to the size of rivr cane? (assuming you shoot river can)
also, why are primative arrows so exspensive if everything you need to make them you can find for free in the woods?


steven

[magnus]

Steven. To make one properly it takes A LOT of time. Especially the head. Make one you'll see. It's worth it though!

[stringstretcher]

1.  Time spent (hours) finding harvesting your arrow material
2.  Time spent (hours) debarking, straightening
3.  Time spent (hours) getting them into spine and length to match a particular poundage bow and style of bow you are shooting
4.  Time spent (hours) hand stripping feathers, pounding sinew or wrapping thread around the shafts through the feathers to adhere them.
4.  Time spent (hours) cutting in self nocks to align the spine to the type of arrow material you are using.
5.  Time spent (hours) sealing or preparing the finished arrow to maintain some kind of longevity.

In total, you can spend a week, yes a week (30-40 hours to make a matched, completed set of primitive arrows to sell.

So bottom line, how much are you willing to work for for a weeks pay??????

Just because things are free for the gathering, someone, somehow, has to put all these things together to make an arrow that is shootable or hunt worthy.

And this is not even considering the time to gather knappable rock if you are knapping the heads, and knapping heads to match in design and weight for that set of arrows.

It's all about the labor $bowhunter$.  And labor is a cost.  JMHO.

As a reference, I have made in the past 3 doz. matched cane arrows, of three different spine and design, and they sold for $300.00 per dozen.  And worth every penny of it too.

[magnus]

Very well put Charlie. Much better answer than mine.
My apologies Steven!

[Roy Steele]

If you can get it donein a week.

[Mike Vines]

Originally posted by magnus:
Very well put Charlie.

x2

[$bowhunter$]

sorry if my comment sounded kinda sassy but i never realized how much time it took to make a single set of arrows. and then knapping heads close to the same size. i would one day like to try this so if anyone knows of a diy thing on them id appreciate it.


thanks,
steven

[stringstretcher]

$bowhunter$, never took your comments as sassy in any way.  The best way to learn is fing you a bush or twig, work on it until it looks something like an arrow, but do make sure it is of enough spine to handle what you are using it on.  

Every kind of wood, shoot, cane material act differently and has to be treated and handled differently, thats what make it so interesting and challenging.

As for the knapping, after you go through about 2 tons of rock, you will probably get enough to do your first six, if you are any where near the kind of knapper I wasn't also.  Take a hint, learn to make some good arrow shafting, and buy you some heads.  You will save tons of work and money.  I tried it, but do to some medical issues, I can no longer knapp, and even when I did, I had to buy slabs to make my points because if the pounding on the rock would set my eyes to going different directions....lol.

Go and find you some good stiff wild rose, cut it at leat 3/8 diameter at the big end, let them dry, while each day hand straightening them until they stay straight.  Bundle them up and let the finish drying.  The start scraping them to a round shaft and you are on your way my friend to looking at every weed, shrub, tree, that you see looking for an arrow in the mix.

[highplains55]

ryan gill at twistedlimbs, hardwood $25,river cane $30 ,real nice obsidian and chert heads.

[magnus]

Steven. I didn't  think that either if my choice of words and how I used them came across the wrong way then I'm sorry! That was not my intent. You do not owe an apology.

[Jon Stewart]

Knapping is a tough craft to learn at least for me it has been.  I did shoot a deer with one of head stone heads last year and it was a thrill.

I go thru a lot of rock trying to perfect this craft and its not cheap.  unless you have unlimited access to rock and I don't in Michigan, you have to pay for it.  A large flat rate box of cooked flint from Texas will run you around $60.00.

With that being said it is fun to learn how to flint knap and make your own arrows.  I am going to make arrows this year out of wild rose shoots and salt cedar shoots with stone points.

[LongStick64]

Highplains,

Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.

[getstonedprimitivebowhunt]

..As much as I love most bowhunting equipment .. Gathering and making a true natural primitive hunting arrows is by far ...more interesting and gratifing ... its what does the final killing !