gluing inserts

[fivebears]

I'm having trouble keeping my inserts in my arrows.I'm shooting GT's and using epoxy on the inserts but when I shoot into my backstop,a 3/4" stall mat,my inserts come out when I pull my arrow.I scuff the inside of the shaft and clean with alchohol before epoxying.Anybody have a better idea?

[topGUN]

I was having the same problem and did a search on this site. Found a post that talked about a product called Kimsha Quick stick. Big Jims actually has a you tube video on how it works. I bought some from 3 rivers and used it on a half dozen arrows. It has only been a couple weeks, but so far so good.

Jeff

[PA stickbow boy]

I had the same problem with my Golt Tip Tradionals... I just started using super glue or crazy glue. Dries fast and have never had one pull out since.  I use the crazy/super glue to fletch too.  Works very well.

[JRY309]

Which epoxy are you using,5 minute epoxy? What I do is scuff the inside with a bore brush and scuff up the insert with some sandpaper and then clean everything with alcohol and then use a 2 part 24 hr. epoxy(slow cure).I never have lost an insert doing it this way.I will also fit the inserts to the shafts.Sometimes like brass insert will have alittle lip that catches on target removal.I'll mount a blunt in my drill and put on the brass insert and spin and file a chamfer on the lip until it fits flush with the shaft.There is not a big lip so it doesn't take very much for a good fit.

[lpcjon2]

I would take the nock off and glue in the insert again and the open nock end will help allow the gasses from the curing process vent out, and this will allow for them to cure properly.

[Rob DiStefano]

use a quality slow set epoxy, not the 5 minute stuff.  clean the carbon tubing insides and the insert outsides with naphtha or alky and then don't touch the alum insert where the glue will bond with yer finger oil.  allow a full overnight cure of the slow set.  i've done this for thousands of carbons and alums over the decades and never ever had an insert come loose.

[Coiloil37]

Get some "insert iron". Heat reversible and holds better then anything else I've ever tried.

[fivebears]

I believe what I have been using is the 5 minute epoxy.I'll get some of the slow set epoxy and try again.Thanks for the advice.

[Benchmade111]

I use gorilla glue Super glue. The only problem with super glue is if any gets on the shaft and you don't clean it. If you shoot a 3D style target the glue will heat up and the arrow will get stuck in the target. It's happened to me when I do 10 or 15 yard shots.

[sawtoothscream]

no matter what i cant keep inserts in my GT arrows.  tried hot melt, no worth trying,  roughed up the inside and used jb weld and again for stumpimg it didnt work any better. idk if its the cold weather are what but they dont ant to hold.

going to try gorilla high impact glue soon and try that with the GT arrows.  i switched to CX heritage for normal and hunting use

[country roads]

lock tite 404 is the best thing i have tried small amount and have 2x4 to push insert in with field point screwed in wipe fast with towel dries very quick and have never had one come out in 12+ yrs of building my own arrows that is pros the cons is cant heat up to spin broadhead if you do that kind of tuning once it is glued it is glued forever

[Montanawidower]

I read an earlier thread on this subject where a GT rep replied.  He stated the best adhesive for his shafts are superglue types of cements.  He did not advocate epoxy.  I have to admit i have tried all of the above.  I have also had the best success with cyanoacrylate.  (What specific epoxy brand are you using Rob?... I have done what you have suggested and had some come loose in very cold weather.)

[Smallwood]

Maybe this will help you out...

 http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000112;p=2

[champ38]

Been using the Gorilla super glue gel (has a blue top) for a couple years now and havnt lost an insert with it yet. its cheap and sets up fast. i also use it for fletching with the same result.

[Possum Head]

Ferrule-Tite for me I dont scuff arrows nor any insert prep. Hot melt is fast and never gave me problems.Also my new 100 gr.inserts just added tons of additional surface area for adhesive.Remember spin that shaft as you shove it home for full distribution. Now go get your hot melt and get back too what you love best! Blessings.

[amicus]

Goat tuff works good. Never had a problem.

[Matt Z]

Gentlemen, how do you adjust your broadheads once you have welded in the inserts?  I have 2 test CX shafts... clueless.  Skeptical.  (danger of fractured shafts)  Shooting 2018's however, looking into HFOC.  Anyone out there from/near Schuylkill County PA?... I'll be right over.  Matt