LifeEnder vs Kanati

[screamin]

Not trying to start an argument here just need a little info from guys that have shot both bows. I'm thinking about of getting a LifeEnder and because, at least from the pics, these two bow designs appear very similar so I had a question for those in the know.

Now I've owned a Kanati. It was a great performer and the quietest bow I have ever shot. But one thing stood out from all the other bows I've owned and those I own now. I'm not quite sure why this was the way it was either, but in order for me to hit the spot, I had to hold the bow higher than all my other bows. If I didn't and held it in the position to hit the spot like I do with my other bows, the arrows would hit about 10" low at 20 yards.

My question for those that have shot both bows, is the LifeEnder the same way?

[KentuckyTJ]

My Kanati doesn't do that. My guess is that yours had a tillering issue.

[screamin]

Never thought of that. If it was tillered for 3 under and I shoot split would that cause it?

[BUCKY]

I shoot 3 under and my 2 kanati's are tillered for split.I don't have any problem.

[jacobsladder]

Tough to beat a kanati for performance , value, or craftsmanship.. I have not shot the Lifeender ..but the kanati has a time tested proven design with lots and lots of happy owners......

[awbowman]

I don't think you can go wrong with either!

[BRITTMAN]

I bet your nock point was to high on the kanati. Each bow even some of the same make will have a little diffrence in nock height and brace height. If you get another kanati try lowering your nock as much as you can with out affecting arrow flight and see if that helps.

[azhunter]

I owned a Kanati and it was a very nice bow. It did not shoot low for me. I held it at the same position as my other bows to hit what I was aiming at. I currently have a Life Ender and it shoots right where I am looking. The bows have very similar design, but I think if you shoot them both you will notice some differences. Both great guys to deal with. Personal preference is what it comes down to when deciding on a bow.

[Jason Kendall]

I have to agree with Brittman, the nocking point had to have been off.

Chad at Lost Creek and I are good freinds, I showed him how to build bows in 2006, he liked my bow and was a customer of mine before we became freinds. We can grab each others bows and shoot them just as well as our own unless he is shooting lefty that day  :D  Very similar designs.

[Froggy]

I can't comment on the Life Ender, but own a Kanati and it is a fine shooter, stable and shoots to the spot, very quiet bow and doesn't take a back seat in speed next to my Centaurs. Is a breeze to tune, mine will shoot everything I have run through it. I have, and have owned bows that cost twice as much that won't outperform the Kanati. Get one in your hands, you will be very pleased I would bet. With that said, personal preference is what it is !! Good luck with your search. I call the Kanati a Shrew on steroids.

Froggy

[GRINCH]

Kanatis are awesome bows.

[KentuckyTJ]

To be clear, I in no way am implying that Jason had done anything wrong or anything was wrong with the bow. I am simply saying the bow was made to someone elses specs.

   

Originally posted by screamin:
Never thought of that. If it was tillered for 3 under and I shoot split would that cause it?

Usually the opposite actually. If a bow is tillered for a split fingered shooter both limbs work almost equally. A bow tillered for a three under shooter has positive tiller in the lower limb to accommodate for the archers pulling hand being lower or not in the center of the string as a split fingered archers is.

When a bow is tillered for a split fingered archer and a three under archer buys it, they must move the nock point up in order to find the center of the string making the arrow fly correctly. This in turn makes the arrow point downward and can make it shoot lower if the nock is way up.

So if you shot it split and the bow still shot low, I would guess you had an arrow spine issue and actually the arrow was coming out of the bow tail high before the flethchings corrected it and ended up low at the target. There was something going on that was very wrong with that setup and most likely at no fault of the bow. Way to hard to guess at a cause sitting behind a keyboard as what you are describing sounds opposite of what usually happens.

[djohnson]

Own a Kanati and it is very easy to shoot. Accurate and quick.It will come down to personal preference.

[azhunter]

Wanted to add. I agree with Jason and Brittman. Jason would not send out a bow that was not absolutely perfect. My Kanati is the only bow I have sold that I wish I would have never let go. It shot as well or better than bows that cost twice as much. I just dropped down in weight and it was a few pounds heavier than I prefer. The neat thing about Jason and Chad is that they both build bows that are worth way more than what you pay for them. They are also both top notch guys to deal with.

[screamin]

Hey thanks for all the comments guys.... although it doesn't make the decision any easier.  

[Carl Miller]

KentuckyTJ-

"Usually the opposite actually. If a bow is tillered for a split fingered shooter both limbs work almost equally. A bow tillered for a three under shooter has positive tiller in the lower limb to accommodate for the archers pulling hand being lower or not in the center of the string as a split fingered archers is."

Actually, the way I was taught you have it backwards.  Tiller for a 3-under bow should be equal and split should have the top limb slightly weaker (for mine about 1/4" difference in tiller at the fades).

The reason: Split finger shooters have their draw hand higher on the string and are lined up with the arrow.  This causes your drawing hand to be higher than your support hand.  This causes you to be closer to the top limb tip than the bottom.  So, the bottom limb needs to be slightly stronger so both limbs come to a stop at the same time.

Now look at 3-under.  Your draw hand is nearly straight back from the support hand because all fingers are below the string. This puts them closer to the center of the string. So the limbs get pulled more equally.

All that said, I have rarely found a bow that really cares that much about perfect tiller.

FWIW,

Carl

[KentuckyTJ]

Ooops, you are right I knew that, my explanation is just backwards.