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Author Topic: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM  (Read 535 times)

Offline Carpmaster

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2011, 09:06:00 PM »
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maaaaayyyybe a 2018.
 
im psoitive one of the two are what you'll  need
Why not a 2114??  (Just curious, not trying to be a smarty it falls right in between the 2016 and 2018 for spine)

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2011, 09:27:00 PM »
A 2016 will be about 30gr heavier and the 2018 about 70 gr heavier than a 2114. They both have thicker walls and thinner shafts so are a little more durable. With a 125 to 145 screw ins, the 2016 should work. With 160 to 190 screw ins the 2018s. Start at about 30" and cut n tune. I try to use the smallest diameter and thickest walled shaft on my hunting arrows. 2016s will end up around 480+ total weight the 2018s at about 560+.
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2011, 09:51:00 PM »
Hvyhitter's advice is right on LeverActionman!   But... Tell us a little more about your recurve...
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2011, 10:16:00 PM »
A few years back when I was shooting a 50 lb Black Widow recurve and drew 28 inches I used 2213's with big Snuffers for an arrow around 520-530 grains as I recall.  I killed a handful of whitetails and a black bear with this setup and penetration was not an issue.

Since my draw has lengthened (thanks to LASIK surgery and ditching the glasses) I had to step up an arrow size for similar wt bows.

Personally I'm a big fan of "22" sized aluminums.  I just like the feel of that diameter arrow.  "20's" feel funny and too thin to me.

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2011, 10:56:00 PM »
I shoot 2213 and 2215 cut to 30 1/4". My bows are mainly 57-64# @ 29 1/4" draw. Broadheads are Zwickey Eskimos and weigh in at 165 gn with long inserts.Total arrow and broadhead weight on the 2215s is 550 gr. Here is my buck last Nov.taken with my Pearson mercury Marauder 64# @ 29 1/4".         Like Ryan I'm partial to the 22 series. This one was a complete pass thru shot at 17 yds.
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2011, 11:09:00 PM »
2114 or 2016, 125 gr out of a 45lbs recurve, 2115, 125gr out of a 50# recurve. works for me.

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2011, 11:27:00 PM »
I've been reading these comments. I'll add my two cents in here.

The 2114 is stronger in spine than a 2016. Just look at the old Easton "shaft" chart. A 2016 will always be one column weaker than the column containing the 2114.

Yes, the 2016 weighs 10.6 GPI (grains per inch) whereas the 2114 weighs 9.9 GPI (grains per inch). But, the 2114 is stiffer in spine (.510) than the 2016 with a spine of (.531). This means more point weight will be at the tip of the 2114 than the point weight on the tip of a 2016 with both arrows being cut the same length. In essence, both the 2016 and the 2114 should be very close in overall arrow weight, but the real difference will be in the point weights of the two arrows.

If I had to choose between the three sizes; 2016, 2114 and 2018 since these choices have been mentioned for a 50# @ 28" bow, I'd pick the 2114.

Speaking just for myself again with a 50# @ 28# bow; for a fast arrow, I'd pick a 2114 and for a slower, but heavier arrow, 2213 since the 2213 with it's large 22/64" diameter, will have more point weight at the tip than a 2114.
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2011, 11:55:00 AM »
tons of good advice here.  :readit:

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2011, 06:29:00 PM »
I've never shot anything but aluminum.  I may be behind the times, but I'm happy with them.
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2011, 08:39:00 PM »
either 2216 or 2020's  28 1/4" and 99% of the time i use zwickey deltas on long solid adapters (175 gr head weight) the 2216's come in at about 570 gr the 2020's right at 600  i was at 60-63lbs in most of the pics and those were 2216's except the long bow pics those were using 2020's i am at 60lb now and shootin the 2020's from a widow psa   i have always shot aluminum   with the exception of a cedar now and then but i had a hard time with wood consitincy (sp) and weight...i use a cat quiver usually so most of my pics dont show arrows, i have never saw a need to not shoot aluminim, you can get a very nice hunting weight arrow without having to add weights and all the bs that goes with carbons. i am one to stick with things that work when it matters..    
         
         
         
         
       
       
       
     
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2011, 08:51:00 PM »
Dave, Somebody else got in your last picture. LOL
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2011, 10:04:00 PM »
48# PSA, 2018 cut @ 29", 170gr snuffer.

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2011, 11:04:00 AM »
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Dave, Somebody else got in your last picture. LOL
handsome young whippersnapper !!      :)
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2011, 11:02:00 PM »
2117 175 head 55@30 assenheimer  arrows 31"

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2011, 06:04:00 PM »
Bear Super Kodiak, 31" 2315 xx75, Magnus 125gr. 2 blade. They work on baldies too.

 
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2011, 04:08:00 AM »
Ah.... the 2219,2419 and 2317 were some great shafts for me. I wonder sometime's why I ever switch to carbons. I didn't take to many pic's back then but they did the job.

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2011, 09:00:00 AM »

 
These two animals were taken with 2216 Legacy shafts, Ace 165 Broadheads out of a Super Shrew Delux drawing 56 lbs @ 27inches. I used cedar for years but I think aluminum is noisier but gives you consistancy.
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2011, 12:58:00 PM »
Played around with carbons for a while. No thanks. Shoot only 2018's. Five inch three fletch, shield cut. 125gr. Snuffers or Magnus II's.

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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »
This thread makes me want to go back to aluminums for hunting

I shoot 2115 out of My 50# Mamba Recurve and those arrows flew very straight

I am shooting a 53# @ my 27 draw longbow now RD , what are your suggestions for hunting will a 2020 work ? at what lenght
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Re: WHO HUNTS ALUMINUM
« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2011, 04:42:00 PM »
I Shoot 2020 Legacies At 58# Recurve and Bear 8.6 Magnums out of my 63# recurve. I can shoot down a tube. Oh! and 160 snuffers.

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