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Author Topic: Noise and ACS bow?  (Read 329 times)

Offline Real Buckmaster

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Noise and ACS bow?
« on: June 04, 2011, 12:11:00 AM »
I have Acs cxz  62" 54lb at 28 seems somewhat louder than my morriosn recurves any sugetions for getting it a little quieter? I am using two pair of rubber silencers. And am shootin with brace ht on the low end.

Offline JRY309

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2011, 12:33:00 AM »
I shoot a padded loop 6 strand 450+ on my ACS 57#@28 braced at 6&3/4" and with a pair of whoolie whispers,I think it is very quiet.I find the different types of low stretch strings can make a difference.I have bows that are quieter with D97,some with 8125 and some with 450+.

Offline oldbohntr

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2011, 12:43:00 AM »
I have a 62" A & H in almost the same weight, and I don't consider it noisy at all-with one puff on each end.  Same with a couple of Adcocks that have even less silencing.  My brace height is close to recommendations.  I've only used very minimal silencers-typically I start with none....add one on each end if necessary, and then start trimming to find the minimum that seems to work.  My strings are home-made flemish, either 6 strand ultra-cam or 8-10 strands of 450+.

Some recurves have been very noisy with skinny strings and very little silencing, but I haven't found that true with the hybrid longbows.  

Two pair of rubber silencers is an awful lot(guess that's why you're asking!)  Does more brace height help? I used to start with minimal brace height and nock height and work my way up.  Now, I go the other way.  Any chance the combination is causing some arrow slap?  Are you using real light arrows?  I'm typically shooting about 600 grains with 18% foc.  

No offense intended.  Owning the kind of bows you're describing, you likely know all this stuff already.
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Offline Real Buckmaster

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2011, 12:52:00 AM »
I am using 55/75 goldtips my draw is 27" It migth just be me I am not used to shooting longbows, but just figured they would be a little quieter than recurves. Bobs bows are pretty quiet.

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2011, 03:07:00 AM »
I have an acs and my draw is 27 also try raising you brace heigth a little,I've got yarn silencers on mine and it's good to go.
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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2011, 05:58:00 AM »
Those I've been around are very quiet, so I'd guess it's one of four options..

1. Wrong brace height
2. Wrong stringmaterial/thickness
3. Constant bad release (but I'm pretty sure that ain't it  ;) )
4. Wrong arrow weight (Also sounds like it's not this one either)

I'd look at nr 1 & 3.
Hope you get it sorted  :)

PS! It seems to me that whiskers make more 'drag' noise on the release then does yarn or wool, but that might be just me..
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Offline Cherokee Scout

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2011, 06:16:00 AM »
I have had several A&H. The only noise I ever seen is if the bows were shot 3 under using a light arrow. When shot split finger, very quiet.
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Offline Two Dogs

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2011, 06:45:00 AM »
Mine makes a thawack noise in the woods, seriously,its dead quiet w/ wools on it. Try playing w/ the brace or a little heaver arrow.

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2011, 08:29:00 AM »
Low brace height could easily be the problem. I would raise it 1 or 2 twists at a time after taking off 1 pair of silencers. The ACS bows I have heard shot were not particularly noisy and a bow would have to be real noisy to need 2 pairs.

Offline daveycrockett

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2011, 09:08:00 AM »
One of the things that always impressed me about the ACS's I've owned(afew) was how  QUIET they were!!

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2011, 09:20:00 AM »
Is the CXZ the 12" riser bow?  I have been on the web site and can’t find that info.  I have been looking at the ACS for a while now. I have shot them whenever I can. I have been waiting for the 12" riser bows to show up more because I want a 60-62” that will work well with my draw length.  I got to shoot these at the Kalamazoo expo for the first time as well as the ILF limbs.  Of all the ACS stuff I shot the 12” riser 62” bows was the nosiest.  Noticeable more so than the 12” riser 60” bow.  More like a recurve to my ear.  A trad gang member from Kalamazoo recently got a 62” and I noticed the same thing.  It was really dead in the hand, fast as all get out, and shoot right where I was looking with great groups each time I picked it up, but still a little noisier than I would like.
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Offline Pat B.

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2011, 02:16:00 PM »
I shoot a 66" A&H so my set up is different....

I do use a 10 strand 8125 and I only use one catwhisker that I split in half, a half tied on at about 1/4 from the end loops..

My brace is 7 1/2", again a 66" bow..

I had a problem with noise until I got my form right. Think alignment and back tension.. Get that working correctly and the bow is QUIET !

I've shot quite a number of animals that ran fifteen to thirty yards, stopped and looked around, not alarmed, then fell.. To me, that's quiet..

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2011, 03:46:00 PM »
Noisy ACS? That is surprising, like others here I shoot ACS bows and find them extremely quiet. I use a six strand SBD string with a little wool silencer. Brace is 6 3/4 and arrows are 12 gpp. My son shoots the same set up, for us they are very quiet bows.

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2011, 04:30:00 PM »
Mine is a 66" 48@29", b-55 12 strand, 8" brace ht., 600 grain arrow, with wool puffs.....almost silent!!
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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2011, 06:55:00 PM »
Like others have said. My ACS is quieter than any recurve I've ever owned. The 2 things that come to mind are brace height ( my 64" is at 7 3/8" ) and string material. If the string is dacron it will sound and shoot like doo-doo.

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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #15 on: June 04, 2011, 08:01:00 PM »
Mine does not shoot like doo-doo with b-55, in fact it is more silent than the 2 fast flight ,high tech strings it came with!   :dunno:
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Re: Noise and ACS bow?
« Reply #16 on: June 05, 2011, 11:37:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Real Buckmaster:
I have Acs cxz  62" 54lb at 28 seems somewhat louder than my morriosn recurves any sugetions for getting it a little quieter? I am using two pair of rubber silencers. And am shootin with brace ht on the low end.
You may have nailed it with the low brace height.

I have a 64"ACS, rubber silencer placed 16" from each tip. It shoots best with the brace height set @ 7 1/2". If the string stretches to where the bow starts making the "shuga" noise the groups are gonna openup and the brace height is down to 7".

Measure your brace height.

Add 4 twists to the string for each 1/4" of brace height you want to add, till you get it shooting quiet. Then mark your arrows with a "sharpie" so you can check the bow in the field. No sense in blowing a shot because your bow is out of tune.

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