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Author Topic: Broadhead Talking Points  (Read 317 times)

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Re: Broadhead Talking Points
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2011, 08:37:00 PM »
Great article, however I take exception on the recommendation for the speed range of a 550 gn arrow wt from 180 to 200 fps in order to recommend a 3 blade BH for elk sized game.
** Few bows can hit the nominal 190 fps at 9 gpp. –Not aware of any that can reach 195 -200 fps at 9 gpp. How was this part of the range substantiated? The few bows that qualify would need to have draw wts ~61#’s at 28.  A typical bow would take ~65#@28 using a an 8.5 gpp arrow(550 gn) to reach the nominal 190 fps recommendation. From a lengthy list of bow speeds as reported by Blackie, the average of all bows recorded is ~184 fps at 9.0 gpp.

I have no idea what the recommendation should be, but find the previous recommendation clearly off the mark.  Many who put faith in this recommendation, with ample fire power, will likely find them restricted to using a 2 blade BH or could end up having a very low gpp set-up in order to qualify. Several may qualify in the very lower part of the range but may lack confidence in choosing a 3 blade due to just exceeding and/or meeting the minimum recommended limits.

My intent is not to push 3 blade BH’s, however they do deserve a little clearer and attainable yet lethal recommendation if one is to be provided.
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Re: Broadhead Talking Points
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2011, 08:56:00 PM »
good article, Thanks.
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Re: Broadhead Talking Points
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2011, 02:04:00 PM »
Note:  In reference to my previous post

An average 45#@ 28 bow, shooting a 550 gn arrow may likely fall short of the 160 -180 fps 2 blade BH recommendation for elk. The shorter draw guys for sure would be well below the recommendation.

An average 50#@28 bow, shooting a 550 gn arrow will likely fall well below the nominal of the 160 -180 fps / 2 blade BH recommendation for elk. Many of the shorter draw guys may not qualify at all.
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Re: Broadhead Talking Points
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2011, 06:56:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Friend:
Great article, however I take exception on the recommendation for the speed range of a 550 gn arrow wt from 180 to 200 fps in order to recommend a 3 blade BH for elk sized game.
The last sentence in the paragraph that you pulled this from acknowledges that arrows well outside of my recommendation have proven their worth. I purposefully wrote that to acknowledge that my recommendation is not gospel and that so nobody would "take exception" with my recommendation. The next sentence acknowledges that there are those who disagree and that my advice errors on the side of caution.

 
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An average 45#@ 28 bow, shooting a 550 gn arrow may likely fall short of the 160 -180 fps 2 blade BH recommendation for elk. The shorter draw guys for sure would be well below the recommendation.
I think you read this wrong.

I said that 160-180 is boarderline and that I usually suggest a two blade for elk or larger. Usually...meaning sometimes I don't. As in times when other penetrating factors are present.

 
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My intent is not to push 3 blade BH’s, however they do deserve a little clearer and attainable yet lethal recommendation if one is to be provided.
160fps is pretty attainable. If you shoot 160fps with a 550gr arrow - set up with perfect arrow flight and weight forward, with a well built and solid three blade broadhead - then I think you have a deadly elk arrow. That would fall within my recommendation - which was very broad, very short, and purposefully vague.

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Re: Broadhead Talking Points
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2011, 08:14:00 PM »
A great read - thanks!
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