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Author Topic: Heavy wood arrows  (Read 383 times)

Offline SlowBowke

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2011, 11:46:00 AM »
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What spine weight do you shoot SlowBowke? Might have a few that could be mailed to Indiana for fulfillment of one item on a bucket list!
A "polished arrow", indeed you ARE, Snag.
God Bless and continue to be as He has done.
Steve


Gentlemen and Ladies?

OT but there exists NO other place where the brotherhood of trad archers is equal to those of you on TragGang!!!

I try hard to be worthy of membership amongst you.

I DID offer some 1920 shafts to one of our own here but danged if I can find him now to fulfil that offer.. should you be him or recall the thread....HELP!
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Offline Mike Vines

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2011, 04:57:00 PM »
I just did the math on my DOuglas Fir arrows, and they average 575 grains out of my RER LXR pulling 46#, which equates to 12.5 grains per pound.  They are quick and deadly silent.

My next thing to do is find someone close that has a chrono to figure out my speed just to satisfy my curiosity.
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Offline LeverActionman

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2011, 05:48:00 PM »
Weighed my arrows and they came in at 600 grains with 160 grain tips.They are cedar 80-85 spine and shoot great out of my 50@28 samick sage recurve drawn 28in.

Offline Raminshooter

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2011, 06:21:00 PM »
I like Ramin wood and have used it for years now. All my arrows are in the 680-750 grain range for my 60-65 lb bows.  

Note: one main reason why a lot of trad shooters do not like shooting real heavy shafts is due to "memory".....their own memory of how much flatter shooting their previous arrows were.  When you start committing to shooting heavier shaft wts. you need to shoot nothing but those arrows for more than a month PLUS you need to do most of your shooting out in the field and different ranges because this will "erase" the memory of the flatter tragectory you had with your old arrows a lot faster.  Worst thing you can do is to try and go back and forth between light and heavy in my opinion.
Keep flinging those shafts!

Offline Rik

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2011, 09:24:00 PM »
Raminshooter --------- RIGHT ON!

Offline SlowBowke

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2011, 07:54:00 AM »
Absolutely, completely, and extremely logically correct, Ramin.

The ONE thing I get SO tired of hearing is that "lighter arrows are *more accurate*..."

SNORT!!

Whatever one wishes to call our "instinctive" shooting abilities, I have tried yet failed miserably to get through to many is that "yardage"..."trajectory"...."speed" are all totally ignorable factors with adequate practice.

Like a quarterback zeroing on a downfield reciever or an outfielder eyeballing home plate it all becomes automatic and , at least for me, making it more complicated than that by attempting to "judge" things only throws it all in the crapper.

The single factors needed are only to concentrate on the "spot" and go through motions that become automated themselves, time and time again.......and it all WILL come together.

Regardless if the trajectory is 4 inches or 4 feet, if the arrow hits the intended spot repeatedly.......THAT is "accurate" by definition.

So many I have discussed this with "think" (wont say much on that LOL) that they will "lose" accuracy due to the trajectory and as you have correctly stated, they would NOTICE such if switching back and forth yet in very little time that will no longer be noticable nor will hunting yardage be lost sticking to truely heavy arrows.

Pardon an old fart for being "wordy" but this is a life long subject I have attempted to hammer into many over the decades yet since it is not "measurable" and isnt spouted within advertisements.........they feel it cannot possibly be true even after helping drag deer after deer out of the woods with me and seeing the shots successfully taken.

Im no wizard of the traditional bow and not a targer archer of any kind but DO feel it is the growth of the longer range 3D shots that have spawned the supposed "need" for *faster* and *lighter*.

Target archery and bowhunting are like a bull and a calf........both chase Momma cow but for completely different reasons.

Neither is right for all and neither is wrong for all but the truly heavy hunting shaft has no close competer when it comes to quiet penetrating stability.

Most say my arrows are "rediculously heavy" and that is acceptable to me.......I just know that I fear NO angle of shot hunting deer other than the full rear "texas heart shot" and know my arrow WILL get to the boiler room through pure momentum.........even out of low 40s lb bows.

I AM SO DING DANGED EXCITED about getting a couple Sweetlands to hunt with Im flat out giddy!!!

They WILL have some competition from my current arrows but hunting with some Sweetlands and heavy heads will "make" my season......or seasons just that much more "oh so dang neat!"

God Bless and thanks. It's been interesting reading!

Slow
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Offline Aeronut

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2011, 08:06:00 AM »
The heaviest shafts I have made were Ipe.  The 11/32" shafts alone weigh almost 900 grains.

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Offline LeverActionman

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2011, 12:53:00 PM »
So Slowbowke you never said how heavy your arrows where.I have no problem shooting heavy arrows and like watching them drop into the target.

Offline SlowBowke

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2011, 01:57:00 PM »
Oops, Sorry. Mine have ran over 600 grains for some time and these Ive made for this season are 665-690 depending on the head I have on them. I dont recall what year it was that I shot anything under 600 grains but its been awhile and several bows back. lol

These are (assumed) Ramin and Tonkin cane, 5/16 and 9/32 diameter.

The ones Ill build from a few Sweetlands are yet to be started on but.Ill stick the end results in here also.

Bows are 43 and 42lbs that I also bought for this year, both from the 50s.

Before it was a 43lb Super K and some EFOC carbons and some woodies running 630-650 but got rid of all carbon shafts and also sold the Super k and went "earlier" this year for bows and broadheads as well, less concentration on the FOC and more on weight and diameter for shafts.

God Bless
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Offline DG2

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2011, 01:46:00 PM »
My collection of heavy arrows consists of (all 11/32 tapered to 5/16, without point):

1. 5+ dz hickory 700+ gr
2. 3 dz ipe 700+ gr
3. 4-5 dz Durawood 900 gr!

Durawoods are super stable and strong, but they are laminated + resin impregnated wood. Not easy to find/get heavy spine and weight 11/32 shafts.

For target archery I use my lighter weight 850 gr arrows and 80#/29" Fox longbow...

Timo

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Re: Heavy wood arrows
« Reply #30 on: July 09, 2011, 01:56:00 PM »
SlowBowke, did you get those Sweetlands made into arrows yet? Wonder how they are treating you?
Isaiah 49:2...he made me a polished arrow and concealed me in his quiver.

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