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Author Topic: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!  (Read 943 times)

Offline Boomerang

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #60 on: July 15, 2011, 03:22:00 PM »
The blade thickness is close to .070 and the width is 1-1/8".

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #61 on: July 15, 2011, 04:54:00 PM »
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The blade thickness is close to .070 and the width is 1-1/8".
the width is the same for the 300gr? or should it be possible to make them wider like big jim with the terminator?

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #62 on: July 15, 2011, 06:02:00 PM »
I got a half dozen inbound.  Can't wait to see how they fly.
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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #63 on: July 16, 2011, 01:08:00 PM »
I ordered three 175's to try out. I really like the solid, no adaptor design... tanto tip and no aluminum ferrule. I bet they are bone splitting as shown.

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #64 on: July 16, 2011, 05:33:00 PM »
I just ordered a dozen of the 250 grain 2 blade heads and a half dozen of the 250 grain 3 blade heads. I will order the 300 grain 2 blade heads when they are available. All the broadheads look fantastic.

I have shot most of the expensive, heavy broadheads designed for really big game, and these look like some of the best. I am not a huge fan of vented broadheads, but the Silver Flames in the past have been of excellent quality, although expensive. The ABS Ashbys are excellent, and so far have been my favorites for the monster animals out there, even though they are also expensive. Based on what I have seen with the VPA 3 blade broadheads, including the 300 grain heads that Andy has been killing buffalo with in Oz, the design, metallurgy and craftsmanship of the VPA heads seems to be of the highest quality, which is why I am so excited about the new 2 blade heads. I prefer 2 blades to 3 blades for the biggest game, despite Andy's great success with the 300 grain Terminators. I have shot the 300 Xtreem 3 blade heads for some time now and think they are generally of equivalent quality to the 300 grain Terminators, but the Terminators cost less and are readily available. I can say that some of the two blade broadheads I have used that I thought would be hell-for-stout have failed at very inopportune times on heavy game, so I am hoping that the new VPA models will not have that problem. I doubt they will from what I see of their design and build, along with the experiences associated with the 3 blade VPAs.

Gary, what I have seen that seems to be the most common failure mode of the two blade heads is hitting a hard object (i.e., bone) at a 30-45 degree angle and having the forward part of the broadhead bend or break. With some shafts such an impact can even break the arrow. Would you be amenable to conducting that kind of angled strike test shooting at some unyielding material to see how the broadhead survives? It would be best if the broadhead would strike the target with the blades in a vertical position to put the maximum load on the head in its weakest orientation. I would be glad to conduct those tests, but I hate to tear up a head just to see how well it fares. Maybe the guys at VPA have already done that kind of testing, which in my opinion ought to be a requirement before marketing a broadhead of this type. I know they are expensive to manufacture, but doing destructive testing on a few of them to see whether they will hold up to their intended use is something that the manufacturer should do as opposed to having the hunter do it in the field where all sorts of bad things can result from a failure. I have had those failures before, and fortunately have not had any terrible outcomes, such as the loss of human life, but I have lost game when a broadhead failed, which could easily have been avoided by prior testing. I don't expect a broadhead to withstand every possible impact. I do expect it to withstand the vast majority of impacts that the manufacturer could reasonably expect it to be subjected to when hunting the animals that the broadhead is designed to kill. If there are potential problems, I sure want to know ahead of time so I can choose a different broadhead. I can say that past experiences with failure in some broadheads is what has caused me to purchase the 2 blade VPAs with the expectation that it will live up to the reputation and experiences of the 3 blade VPA Terminators.

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #65 on: July 17, 2011, 03:07:00 PM »
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the width is the same for the 300gr? or should it be possible to make them wider like big jim with the terminator?
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This is a great point. I would love to know if the width can be mad  larger.
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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #66 on: July 17, 2011, 03:33:00 PM »
I might have missed it? But where is the best place to purchase these in two blade 250gr.

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #67 on: July 17, 2011, 05:03:00 PM »
RLA,
Here is where you can get them right now.

Rayzor, Inc.
(540) 819-1776
rayzor-vpa.com

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #68 on: July 17, 2011, 08:07:00 PM »
Thanks, I just ordered six, I'll be shootin them this fall!

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #69 on: July 23, 2011, 12:20:00 AM »
1st batch of the 150s and 250s are sold out.  More in a couple weeks.

Offline screamin

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #70 on: July 23, 2011, 12:38:00 AM »
any plans in the future of making a single bevel head?

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #71 on: July 23, 2011, 02:50:00 PM »
No immediate plans for a single bevel but nothing is out of the question.

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #72 on: July 23, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »
We're down to just a few packs of 200s and 175s of the first run.

Offline HB3

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #73 on: July 25, 2011, 12:41:00 AM »
Have ordered some of each size for different uses but would love to have some 300 Single Bevels if you ever get around to it.

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #74 on: July 25, 2011, 12:45:00 AM »
are these heads hunting sharp out o fpack or at least have the angle already set so sharpening is easy????  love the looks of this head
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Offline RM81

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #75 on: July 25, 2011, 09:09:00 AM »
Just got a pack of the 200's.  They look like great heads, but mine where no where near sharp out of the pack.  Not dogging them, but I expected a better edge.  I'm still excited to use them this fall.

Also, what is the best way to sharpen the tip on these?

Offline azhunter

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #76 on: July 25, 2011, 10:12:00 PM »
Not very sharp out of the package, but like Gary said mine got razor sharp quickly with the KME broadhead sharpener.

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Re: New VPA 2 Blades on the Way!
« Reply #77 on: July 25, 2011, 11:50:00 PM »
well thats not good news for me. going to have to order a kme.  why are most trad heads dull? never ran across a head made for compounds that wasnt hunting sharp out of the pack
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