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Author Topic: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........  (Read 225 times)

Offline Sharptop

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Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« on: August 19, 2011, 06:57:00 PM »
Greetings all. I am aiming to hunt deer and bear in a WMA across the mountain from me. Southern tip of the Appalachians, former start of the Appalachian trail. From 15000 to 3200 feet, highly steep ridge and valley with streams, lots of bear around now less deer. Have a cabin on the other side and we are seeing lots of bear.

Advice as to early season, opens Sept. 12. About the only thing I know is that they get up white oaks to eat about that time. What elevation? Do you depend on scouting or move around glassing? What time of day is optimal? Is there a good method of identifying a boar versus a sow? I can tell with the bigger bears but we have so many sows with cubs and they leave them up a tree and head off for hours sometimes. I've seen it from my deck and really don't want to shoot a cubbed sow.

Thanks for any advice.

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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2011, 08:45:00 PM »
Your best bet at getting as trad bow close as "YOU" specifically need to be, is
STEP 1-getting yourself into a honey comb costume complete with a smearing of honey
STEP 2-have a close friend (or someone else who can spare to lose you to a bear) hand cuff you to a tree and beat feet away from you and said sacrificial tree.
STEP 3 Sit back and video the whole event(from a safe distance) for the rest of us to enjoy.
     At any rate good luck pardner and dont forget to write me in your will before taking my expert advice.

       P.S. If you show no fear the bear may mistake you for a mate instead of food and then the real fun will begin.    :thumbsup:

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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 09:30:00 PM »
i thought the season opened up the 10th..? i will be up at cohutta giving this mess a try. from what i've read on another forum the bears should be high up on the ridges with whiteoaks that are producing not necessarily dropping yet. i am going up to scout next weekend so maybe i'll have a better idea of what to look for then.

good luck, eric

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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 09:51:00 AM »
Bears will be on whatever is the best food source for that period of time and they will travel long distances in the Fall if they need to.I would cover quite a bit of ground till I found sign of active feeding.I doubt if elevation matters a lot,unless it affects were the food grows.Don't forget blue berries and apple trees if there any near.

They love thick cover so I would start checking trees near thick,security cover.Think about dark,cool places for bedding areas.They love beaver ponds.

If you happen to be in a dry area with few water sources,an isolated spring can be golden.

You do have to be careful with sows,as you mention.Sows are not as tall in the front end as boars so usually there shoulders are not as high as the top of the hips.This contributes to their pear shaped appearance.Mature boars often look more rectangular.Sows heads a are smaller,as are wrists and feet.Sows muzzles usually are more narrow and tapered.Their nose pads are smaller than a boars.A mature boar will have a blockier muzzle that doesn't taper much.

If bears are climbing oaks,you should be able to find some scuffing or claw marks and hair on the bark.

Never underestimate their nose.

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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 01:51:00 PM »
If you do a search for "cohutta" you will find lots of advise, much of it from Terry Green.

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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2011, 02:15:00 PM »
One suggestion that I read in GON a few years ago from a trophy bear hunter in Cohutta was to glass big white oak trees looking for the tops that are broken out. Bears will climb these trees and break off and drop branches loaded with acorns.
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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 04:10:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Sharptop:
I've seen it from my deck and really don't want to shoot a cubbed sow.
Good....because that is illegal.


Tuff hunting, but very rewarding just sighting the critters.

He's what little I know.....

Hunt white oaks....big ones. Try and find some on a Mt. top, knoll, ridge or long slopping lead. Personally, I haven't had as much luck hunting IN the bottoms. I think they must work their way down, and get in the bottoms after dark. I have had luck with major leads that end up in the bottoms.

The bears will most likely be climbing the white oaks the 1st two weeks of the season, then gathering underneath the rest of the season.

Try your best to find white oaks with claw marks and white oak groves with lots of scat and other bear sign. If more than one bear is using the area, then your odds of a sighting are increased dramatically.

Travel funnels between two oak groves is also a great place to set up if you can't decide which tree they are bound to hit. Look for trails twice as wide as deer trails, and a bear trail will have a 'packed down' texture vs the crunched up of a deer trail.

Pre scouting a week or days before the season opens is much more productive than 2 weeks before.

The best tip I can give you is to hunt a single tree with lots of scat near it....BUT!!!, you must find at least one fresh pile....how fresh? With flies on it!!!...if a pile aint got flies on it, I keep a walking.

Sparse acorn crop?...gotta wear out some boot leather to find the few trees that are producing. Can be tuff to find, but once you do, the bears will be there.

Normal acorn crop?....sign will be easier to find since the bears are moving a lot from tree to tree, and scattered about a bit more.

If we have a drought?...and all the acorns fall just before the season?....then I don't commit to any trees or groves, I walk and walk and walk, cause the bears will not have to move for food, you will have to find them. Walk travel routes like mentioned before, but try to walk those with known running water near by, since water will be scarce during a drought as well.

Afternoons are better than mornings, but that don't keep me from hunting mornings. I've seen them as late as 10 am.

While walking in, pay attention to 'loud squirrels' in the trees...they may be a bear. If so, stalk the tree from down wind, and wait for the bear to climb down. Now, pay attention to the tree, you may need to get cross wind. If the tree is straight with no obstructions, there's no telling where he'll climb down. But, if the tree is leaning, or on the side of a steep ridge, or has some obstruction to one side, the bear will take the easy route down at the base.....clear from obstruction, up hill side, or least steep side if the tree is leaning. So, set up accordingly the best you can with the wind still in your favor.

The early season seems to congregate bears in higher elevations, and they work there way down in elevation, since the acorns will mature earlier up hi. Now bear in mind, that some times there is a late freeze in the spring, so those higher elevations will be void of sign due to the buds getting nipped. If that is the case, then move down the mountain a 1/3 of the way, and scout your way down. However, I have seen bears low the 1st part of the season, so the higher elevation is a guideline, not written in stone.

Two weeks before the season will be the tailing end of the last 'patten' before the acorn feed, and might be tempting, but don't fall for it. If you scout early, you will possibly find sign in berry patches, around wild cherry trees, and in dead pine groves the pine beetles devoured because of the grubs in the rotting pines. Unless you are in the highest elevations in GA, this should be what you will find. If you are in the highest elevations, then you should find them already on the acorns unless of course there was a late freeze in that area.

Be ready to not only see bears, but deer and hogs as well. When bear hunting, I've seen more bears and hogs than deer in the GA mountains. And don't let anyone kid you, there are 200 pound plus boar hogs roaming the mountains.

Another thing to look for is saddle ridges between two tops....or connecting leads. The right ones will have a trail suddenly appear as the knoll narrows thought the saddle, and then it will disappear just as quick as it nears the next knoll or lead.

Seems the bears pilfer around these ridge tops, and use the 'spines' to travel to the next 'pilfering' area.

These trails can be 100 yards long, or 1000, but the trails will be packed down, not 'crunched' up like deer trails....and, most likely, it will meander by every mature white oak along the way.

One more thing.....

If you do decide to hunt in the Morning....and you have a REALLY hot spot....don't go 'into' it while its still dark.

Lay back a little distance till dawn, and ease in there.....that way you wont' blow em out...and you will have the added thrill of an early morning stalk.

Once again I'll reinstated the most important thing you can do is hunt over fresh sign....meaning fresh scat...so fresh it has flies on it...or like my bear this year, so fresh it doesn't even have flies on it yet.

If you aren't on fresh sign....KEEP WALKING!!! You will have better luck bumping into a bear by walking and looking for fresh sign than just hunting an area that 'looks good' with a bit of old sign.

Also I've when you have a lot of rain all summer, the acorns will hold onto the trees longer....we never heard it 'raining acorns' this year. I usually run bears out of trees the 1st two weeks of the season...but I killed a  bear the last day of the season in a tree so you never know. So, pay attention to whether they are dropping or holding while scouting/hunting.
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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2011, 10:43:00 AM »
Thank's Terry, that's what I was looking for. I was wondering about afternoons being better as all the bears we have seen have been between 7:30 PM and dark.

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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2011, 04:46:00 PM »
I"ve seen bears in the AM......9-10.....or at 1st light.

In the afternoon....3 till dark....we've seen a lot of bears in-between 3 and dark....LOTS...not just that last hour.  The one I shot in the tree was at 5:15.
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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2011, 04:53:00 PM »
good info right there

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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2011, 05:22:00 PM »
Can you bait or scent?  A bear's nose is twice as big as his eyes. I hunted them when I lived in AK and learned a trick from my native friends   If you can shoot me a line
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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2011, 06:06:00 PM »
No,...you can't bait...or scent with food.
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Re: Georgia mountain bear hunting advice needed........
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2011, 08:49:00 PM »
That is fair. We had different rules in AK 30 years ago.
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