sharpening tusker concordes and burr question

[sawtoothscream]

k i have been trying to sharpen my concordes for a long long time now and just cant get it. i have been filing like crazy.  everyone says you need a burr. can anyone post a pic of what a burr looks like?  having a hard time getting these thing to sharpen  thanks

[saumensch]

I havent got a pic for you,
but heres a vid of John, the owner of Tusker at work sharpening.
Hope it helps.

 

[Nate Steen .]

I like the new concordes....I  buy the double bevel, and only sharpen one side like a grizzly.  if you sharpen one side, creating a flat wide edge, watching your edge until all the factory edge is gone, you should have the burr on the underside of the edge.  remove this burr with light strokes of the file and there you go...simple as that.  really easy to sharpen these heads and get them shaving sharp with a file.

[sawtoothscream]

tried fallowing the vid but cant really see what angle he is using.  guess im just clueless on what this burr looks like and i cant find any pictures or vids that actually show what it show look like.

[calgarychef]

The burr is simply where the edge finally gets so thin that it "folds over"  You can feel it on your fingernail if you drag it from the middle of the broadhead and over the edge. Hope that makes sense.  Many people get a burr and mistakenly think that it's a sharp edge but that isn't true.  It's especially common with file sharpening.

[Rob W.]

Either you file is clogged or your angle is to steep. Take a wire brush to the file and lay the file down to the point you are worried about scratching the ferrule. Work one side then feel the other side edge. Thats where the burr will be. Once you have it easy does it with a few light strokes on that side.

[SlowBowinMO]

Like Rob said, don't be afraid to get into the ferrule.  Most guys who are having trouble are not taking the bevel all the way through (even though it may look like it).  A sharpie can help with this.  Once you have the bevel all the way through simply clean off the back and you'll be there.

Another hint, drag your finger across the edge (against the rotation) to get a feel for the edge instead of along the edge.  It's easier to get an idea where you are that way.

[sawtoothscream]

k. so my one heads pretty much ruined from my sharpening it so much. ill start on a different one and try again. so when it feels like its folded over on the other side thats the burr? guess i  did have one.

[Sharpster]

Here ya go....

 

This burr is overly heavy so that you can see it in the pic. When you drag your fingertips out from under the unbeveled side, you'll feel a coarse ribbon of steel all along the edge. Then continue to work the bevel side with as many stone grits as you like. Next, using a med or fine stone do the absolute minimum necessary to the remove the burr. This is done "into" not "away from" the edge. Then strop the blade on a piece of leather or plain brown cardboard. While sharpening is done with "into the edge" strokes, stropping must be done with "away from the edge" strokes.

Ron

[sawtoothscream]

thanks.  going to bust out another head and give it a go.

[Butch Speer]

Ron gave some great advice.

[Recurve50 LBS]

I was going to say I hope that Ron from KME chimes in on this thread. Thanks for helping out Ron.

[sawtoothscream]

k so i took the head and worked it on the file until i got the burr. then i put it in the kme knife sharpener and put the angle at 27degrees and worked it with the brown stone. then went to medium and worked both sides then went to the fine stone. stroped it on the card board since i cant find my leather i had and it took hair off my arm.  seeing how this head is ruined from me trying to sharpen it i went to get teh others and had one more ruined from a previous attempt. so i have one head. going to try and sharpen that tomorrow since my fingers are sore.  going to have to place another order. might just get the kme sharp ones and skip the file step.