i love my summit treestands I used to use the goliath for hunting, but since i shoot recurves now the bar gets in my way. So last year my brother let me use his summit bushmaster and it was great it had an open front and was about 5lbs lighter than my golliath. Plus the bushmaster has the side bars to help you climb. You may also want to look at the open shot from summit it has no bars and it has a flip up seat so you can stand closer to tree and get a shot. I called summit and you can order just the top section so thats what I'm gonna do I hope this helped thanks brad