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Online Warchild

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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2011, 08:50:00 AM »
That's what you get for shopping at Walmart.

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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2011, 09:11:00 AM »
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You really expect the person working behind the counter at Wal-Mart or where ever you purchased your license to know all the Hunting Regulations and units for every season?
I expect to get what I pay for--I don't think that is unreasonable.  

If you go into a jewelry store and some kid working there after school for minimum wage accidently sells you a fake 3 carat diamond for real diamond price, are you going to say "oh well--my bad for not knowing my diamonds" or would you demand you either get what you paid for or your money back?

He didn't say where he bought it, but it wouldn't matter to me if it was the local DNR or Wal-Mart or Joe's Bait Shop.  The principal remains the same.  I own a business, and if I screw up then it's on me--NOT my customer.  

You can (and should) do your research, but some of that stuff is written up so you'd have to be a lawyer to understand it all.  Bro was assured by the seller he was getting the right license--the guy selling it should know what he's talking about, right?  Besides, last time I checked human beings are prone to making mistakes.

 
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I think its funny how some of you complain about the govt and then suggest they take care of you by doing all the thinking for you- all in the same breath at that.  
That's a big exaggeration.  Go to the DMV and buy a tag for your truck.  Say you own a truck that should get a tag that costs $50, but the clerk makes a mistake and you get charged $500.  You can argue, but the clerk won't budge.  You pay it because you got to have a tag to keep from getting a ticket.  You find out later about the goof.  I guess that's your fault for not knowing the details of a gov't worker's job, and you just eat the $450?

I would try Ragnaok's approach--but be polite about it as long as you can.  If you can't get anything from the first person you talk with, ask to talk to a supervisor.  Work your way up the chain.  Sounds like you got someone who doesn't want to bother doing with any extra paperwork.  Consulting a lawyer should be free also--sometimes just a phone call from an attorney can work wonders.

Thanks for sharing--I've hunted out of state quite a bit, and so far my experience has been very good (and I have bought several of my tags/licenses from Wal-Mart, since it's usually the easiest place to find).  I'll make it a point to look at the regs a little closer from now on...but I'm not going to claim I can come close to understanding them all.  Try memorizing the game regs for a state like New Mexico...good luck.......

Chad

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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2011, 09:30:00 AM »
Walmart and Colorado, boy this sure hit home with me.  Went out to enjoy my brother's first big game hunt some years back.  Decided to take the coyote rifle, just in case there was time to play.  
Standing in line at walmart the clerk was getting chewed out by the fella in front of me fro selling the man the wrong ammo.  That sould have told me sumphin. He leaves I step up to buy a small game tag.  We get to talking about the irate customer that just left while he fills out my license.
I didn't realize until it was about time to go back home that I was carrying a FISHING license! LOL. :eek:
My fault for not paying attention.  
Original poster is correct, though,
BUYER BEWARE!

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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2011, 09:36:00 AM »
Guys

My understanding of the situation is something like this.  Somebody else sells me a Bow, Arrow, Sting that you made and he overcharges me, or sells me the wrong item.  

I then come to the maker and say that I want a refund because John Doe said that your item would work but it doesnt.  

Is that your fault and are you responsible for making it right?  You might make a trade with him because the item isnt that expensive or because it is easily switched out or because you care deeply for the integrity of your product and dont want people to have bad experiences.  But you might not.  

Also consider this.  I work for a game agency and permit selling and refunds are governed by state statutes or regulation.  In some states its not a big deal to refund and sell more tags in other states like CO where there are limited tags and there is always tension between resident and non-resident hunter, outfitters and do-it yourselfers,  Archers and Gun hunters.  The rules have to be followed or legal actions against the Agency are a real threat.

Not trying to be a jerk or anything but I get calls all the time of people accusing me of stuff that either I dont/cant control, or cant do anything about due to legislation, policy, or biologically based management decisions.  I am not going to blow smoke up anyones butt and say that everything any agency does is right and makes sense all the time but we are trying to do the best for the resource and the user with what we have.  

It really sux anytime somebody has a bad experience with a game agency because it leads to distrust and rumor about a bunch of folks that want to provide a recreation and want people to be successful.  But in the end we have to follow the rules.  We expect hunters and anglers to do the same.  

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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2011, 09:59:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Jedimaster:
I think you misunderstand the dissenting opinion sir. I also see you grossly underestimate the intelligence of those you have not made acquaintance. ....
 God bless you, hope you never suffer an injustice at the hands of another's ignorance or indifference, especially when you were given their word.

Wrong on both points. I especially do not think people here are stupid.

I have found in my own 52 years on earth that sometimes you have to fight for yourself. No one is going to do it for you. we have all suffered injustice in one form or another in our lives. Its what we do after that counts.

And BTW everyone, yes, its too bad this happened. But it does not rise to the level of a tragedy. My 28  year nephew fighting cancer and probably eventually losing that fight is a tragedy. A friend committing suicide at the family camp and leaving a family in tatters is tragedy.

Keep it in context.

Joshua. And thanks for the blessing.
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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2011, 10:14:00 AM »
Wow!!  

This was just ment as a tip for others, from a guy pointing out his own mistake, so they wouldn't make it too.  Nothing more.

Let's keep it friendly here guy's and gal's.
-Mack

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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2011, 10:26:00 AM »
Thanks. I know we are all friends here, even in our dissenting perspectives.
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Re: Buyer Beware!
« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2011, 03:05:00 PM »
Ok this was closed earlier and I am going to add something here. This thread was not meant to bash anyone. Leonard just want to throw it out there and make people aware of the possibilty.

Ultimatly it is the hunter who will take the hit if the licence is incorrect and that is the CYA message he wanted to convey. This same thing happened to me in CO just last year. I thought I was getting a fishing licences and ended up with only a habitat stamp. Luckely I was aware of what happened before I left the counter.

CO will adjust for improper Tags if it is before the season. If it is after the start of season you will have to go up the chain if you want anything to happen.
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