I have commented on a few posts here about how hard anything even close to good Cedar is to find but Rod Kelley of Mountaintop Traditional Arrows, Kalispell, MT. (406) 756-5885 is fast making a liar of me. I just received a dozen 67-72 spine, 437 to 446 grains beautiful and STRAIGHT Cedar shafts. If this were a one time thing I would not mention it but this is the third dozen like this I have gotten from Rod in the last year, the only difference was the first 2 dozen were 60-65 spine and 10 grains heavier. Heavy, straight Cedar - I'm impressed! What I judged them against were the latest excellent Douglas Fir I received from the guys at Surewood, it's nice to get dozens of shafts and every one of them top notch.