New Member, New Recurve, Wrong arrows?

ebar · October 31, 2011, 09:18:00 PM

Hey guys, I have a Bear super kodiak 50#. At my draw length 30" i am shooting at about 55-56lbs. I have been shooting easton legacy 2216 arrows and they seem to be a little light in the spine. I have shot 100gr, 125gr, 140gr and 165gr tips. I had the best flight with the 140 and 165gr tips. i want to shoot a 165 gr broadhead and was wondering if anyone has any good suggestions on arrow selection before i buy another dozen. I would love to shoot a wood arrow but know nothing about them. Any advice and insight on the subject would be much appreciated.

Cootling · October 31, 2011, 09:24:00 PM

Sounds like a pretty good arrow to me... I used to shoot 2215 shafts cut to 29" in the 55-60# range with 125-145 grain points and they shot very well.

Your problem might not be spine. You could try rotating your nocks to make sure you are getting good clearance of the shelf. Makes a world of difference.

Steve O · October 31, 2011, 09:25:00 PM

That is an awful STIFF arrow for that bow. I bet you would have a lot better luck with a much heavier head or really, a 2016 or 2018.

ebar · October 31, 2011, 09:32:00 PM

OK, I goofed, its actually a 2016 arrow.

Steve O · October 31, 2011, 09:37:00 PM

Bam, there you go, get a few 2018s, leave them full length, then cut them down a little at a time until your field points and broadheads are hitting the same spot.

ebar · October 31, 2011, 09:43:00 PM

Thanks Steve O, I'll give it shot!

October 31, 2011, 09:48:00 PM

I would have to concur with the 2018 advice. You should be able to make those work just fine.

Bisch

ebar · October 31, 2011, 09:51:00 PM

Cootling thanks to you too, I really dig traditional archery so far but havent gotten my bow "tuned" as well as i think it should be. The Super Kodiak is new but came with a 5" brace height? I twisted the heck out of the string and its at 8" right now. Seems to be working alot better. This is my second super kodiak, the first was returned due to pressure cracks on the limbs. I was a little dissapoited with bears customer service so i havent called back to get the proper string. What length should it have come with?

legends1 · October 31, 2011, 10:00:00 PM

Welcome to Tradgang

cahaba · October 31, 2011, 10:19:00 PM

I also concur 2018s.

JimB · October 31, 2011, 10:29:00 PM

You are too stiff.Try about 225 or 250 gr point.If you use glue on broadheads it is easy to set them up to match various weights,using different weight adapters etc.

Night Wing · October 31, 2011, 11:16:00 PM

Since a 2018 is basically a (.464) spined arrow, at 12.3 grains per inch, it's a very heavy arrow.

If you want a lighter arrow, a 2213 is a (.460 in XX75 and .458 in X7) spined arrow and at 9.8 grains per inch in XX75 and 9.9 grains per inch in X7, it would be a much faster and flatter shooting arrow that would still pack a punch.

Jeff Strubberg · November 01, 2011, 09:24:00 AM

2018s are great shafts, very durable. I shot them for years out of a Bear recurve that measured 56# at my 30" draw. Should be close to what you need for that bow with a 125 grain point.

Bladepeek · November 01, 2011, 09:37:00 AM

2117s have also been very adaptable to my 47 - 50 # bows. I also have a long draw and need 30.5" minimum arrow length. At that length, I can go from 145gr to 200 gr as the bow requires and seldom run out of adjustment range. I just have a lot of 2117s and no 2018s. Maybe my next ones should be 2018s.

metsastaja · November 01, 2011, 10:24:00 AM

Welcome.
Be careful in your selection of arrow based on recommendations. Over the years here I have found most help/advice is based on a 28" draw.

The extra 2"/30" draw makes a big difference.

Notice Jeff and Bladepeek posts both 30" shooters. Jeff shoots a light front end and Bladepeek shoots a heavy front end. They are both correct.

I happen to shoot carbon. My preference for my mid 50 bows is a Carbon Express 250. My arrows are cut 30.5" by the time I add a nock and adapter the BOP of arrow is about 31.25. Depending on center cut of bow and side plate material I use a 50 or 100g brass adapter then play with BH weight.

If you want to play around with numbers download Stus Dynamic Spine calculator (see my signature). Many of us have had great success with it.

ebar · November 01, 2011, 07:36:00 PM

Thanks for all the replys guys, i will consider and experiment with all your ideas.

Cootling · November 02, 2011, 09:18:00 AM

Ebar, I think AMO standard is bow length -3". So if you shoot a 60" bow, you should have a string of approximately 57".

The stock flemish twist strings from 3-Rivers Archery are economical and are not bad strings. They are sold by actual length, so I would twist your string up until you are pleased with the brace height, then measure it. Sometimes the strings come in a bit long, so if in doubt I would go shorter rather than longer.

Within reasonable limits, brace height is a matter of personal preference. Personally, I am not a big fan of low brace heights. A relatively high brace gives a bit better clearance for bulky clothing, for example. The thing is, a high brace height will make stiff arrows act more limber... so if your arrows are stiff, try increasing the brace height. If they are too limber, try reducing it. Modest changes in brace height can accomplish quite a lot.

Good luck!