When picking a tree, who places their stands on barren trees. If you use a climber, you have to. When I was young, I use to use stands on barren poplars and routinely get shots under the tree. It seems that the older does around the farm have got into the habit of looking up. It is very hard to get a consistent wind in the mountains. It seems like the wind is always swirling. The other day, I was using a trick told to me by Barry Wensel using fly glow yarn. The floater blew their way and imidiately they started sticking their nose in the air and started looking up in the trees for the source. Not bad for a dumb doe (yea right). The good thing is I think they are use to human smell around the farm. I have been trying to thin them out for about three years now. During that time, my stepson and his friends have been bow hunting the farm. I changed tree and only hunt trees with great cover. I always hunt the wind the best I can considering the mountain winds.