2 Blade vs 3 Blade Shock Effect

[JoeM]

I had the same thing Terry described.  Shot a Five point with a Magnus Stinger four blade, he kicked his legs took one jump looked around and went back to eating acorns.

[Terry Green]

Originally posted by JoeM:
I had the same thing Terry described.  Shot a Five point with a Magnus Stinger four blade, he kicked his legs took one jump looked around and went back to eating acorns.

Yep....looks like someone missed my post....it happens also with 4 blades...had it happen many times.....so, its not just exclusive to 2 blades.

I also agree with Curt on the 51 #s....but I don't know the arrow weight or draw length.

[JoeM]

Originally posted by Terry Green:
 

Originally posted by JoeM:
I had the same thing Terry described.  Shot a Five point with a Magnus Stinger four blade, he kicked his legs took one jump looked around and went back to eating acorns.

Yep....looks like someone missed my post....it happens also with 4 blades...had it happen many times.....so, its not just exclusive to 2 blades.

I also agree with Curt on the 51 #s....but I don't know the arrow weight or draw length. [/b]

I got a chuckle out of the acorn similarities  

[amicus]

Since I have been shooting grizzlys every deer I have shot has died within sight. Most of them only jumped at the sound of the string ran 15-20 yrds and then turned as if to see what made that noise and then start to walk off only to drop dead a few steps latter. On a couple of those deer, I actually split a rib. I firmly believe that a super sharp two blade is the reason for that behavior.

Gilbert

[Stumpkiller]

I think Dnovo hit it early on.  Depends more what the broadhead hits than the shape; but the shape may determine what it hits.  I put an arrow sporting a single blade (two edge) through a small buck and he just flinched a bit but it may well have been from the bow noise or sound of the arrow hitting the ground beyond him.  Went between ribs coming and going.  He kept walking (I would have taken a second shot if he'd presented one) and eventually teetered over.

Often they kick their hind hooves out when struck - but I imagine if you walked up undetected and poked them with your finger they'd do the same.  They know something touched them, and they can see ahead and to the sides so that leaves one direction to kick at to escape.  If you evolved in the prey role along with coyotes or cougars you'd do the same, I'm sure.

[Tajue17]

whats the weather like too,,, I wondered about this myself but I added in what if the broadhead was freezing cold and then what if it was warm,,, do they notice that???

you folks that hunt warm and freezing climates for the same species, do you notice a difference?

[Stumpkiller]

Nah.  My bow's so fast the broadhead is warmed up by the air friction.    :D  

I guess it could be a factor.  Most nerves are near the skin, though, and the blood warms up a broadhead pretty quickly.

The cold air rushing in on a collapsed lung might be a factor as well.  Be a tough one to test (but a great campfire topic!)

[Blaino]

intresting stuff.....  

[Terry Green]

Originally posted by JoeM:
I got a chuckle out of the acorn similarities          

Yeah...I was amazed....that deer did flinch, then paused and looked around, and right back to feeding.  I had one other one jump and also took a few steps, looked around and went back to feeding and fell over.

I've also had a couple do the o'l double bound n trot to stop and stop and look around and get weak knees and go down...

I've also had a few do the o'l double bound n trot to stop and stop and look around and start picking their way around in a simi circle trying to get down wind and get weak in the knees and go down...


Most of them did the o'l double bound n trott to stop and stop and look around and decide to leave by walking off in the direction they bounded and get weak in the knees and go down...

All with Zwickey Delta 4 blades.

[Roger Norris]

I'm thinking it's a hit bone vs not thing, both penetration and bolting.

By the way, my arrows are 640 grains.

I have some older Grizzly heads, I think I'm going to use them for the rest of the season and see what happens.

All of this is speculative....i just wish the "not-bolting" thing was something we were able to duplicate every time.

[Terry Green]

I hear ya Roger....and I would suspect that any animal shot that the arrow did not completely pass through cleanly would have a fright n flight outcome.

[charles m]

Interesting how some folks don't want to agree just to dissagree.  Some folks sure have an obvious pattern of doing so, and against the same people over and over.  So obvious its like some sort of weird stalking type of obsession.  I wonder how many deer they've really killed?  I bet a lot less than they lead you to believe.

[Altiman94]

I had this happen to me this year twice.  Shot two does, didn't hit any ribs and they jsut walked off like nothing happened.  Seconds later, they tipped over.  I think like mentioned if you don't hit bone there's no shock factor.

[Terry Green]

Yeah Charles....I hear ya....it does get old...and most are much more transparent than they realize.    :rolleyes:      :rolleyes:      :rolleyes:

[amicus]

This thread has been very interesting and does reveal a lot. It shows that there is no hard and fast way or results. It shows that you can never predict animal behavior too many scenarios and varibles.

I think most people are just posting what they have experienced. Thats all I did. Not sure why that would be considered "transparent"  :confused:  

Gilbert