swagged shafts???

[3Feathers]

Anybody know where I can get some swagged 2016 shafts?

[Bel007]

Mike's Archery Inc.

 www.mikesarchery.com

[joe skipp]

I second Mike's Archery out of Ironton, Ohio. I have 3 dz shafts here he swagged for me and I'm pleased with his work.

[SERGIO VENNERI]

I 3rd mikes archery. best swageing i have ever seen, besides my own LOL.

[babs]

what does swagged mean? is that where the nock end gets smaller at nock? Just curious, and whats the benefit from the swagged thanks brad

[3Feathers]

Do they swag both ends?

[MJB]

3Feathers,
Yes

[stickbowhntr]

Brad the benifit is you can direct mount your points to the shafts and eliminate as much compound errors in mounting plus keep point weight down. In the past we liked to keep head weight to a FOC a lot less than many do lik eit now with point heavy stuff. I used to do several 100+dz a year in my shop[close dnow] and may have some still around that were never picked up or some old std stock...what lengeth do you need? {Throat of nock to back of head}?

[babs]

i would need a 30" arrow and i would like to try some 2117 out of my bob lee recurves and longbows they are 50lbs @ 29" let me know if you have any stickbowhntr. you still use inserts correct? this is all new to me thanks brad

[Joseph]

Not trying to nitpick but it looks like the taper on the shaft pictured above was spin formed.  Swaging an aluminum shaft makes the shaft wall thicker in the tapered section increasing the strength.  Years ago before carbon shafts, when aluminum was more popular, there were several people selling shafts with formed point tapers on them and it was widely recomended to make sure you got the swaged ones and not spin formed.  I have never used either and I don't know if this was just conjecture or a valid concern but it is one of those little trivial bits of information that lodged itself in my head.

[dnovo]

Years ago I heard the same as Joseph said. There used to be a place in Montana or Co called RG arrows(I think). They did the swaged arrows and other people did spin forming. The swaging was recommended over the spin formed. I don't think they are in business anymore, so you might have to take what is available.

[stickbowhntr]

the ONLY copmpany that I knew of doing the hammer forged [not spin] was Easton and that took when they were doing it a min of 10dz to order that way...my Are also spin formed.

[njloco]

I must be missing something, though I understand this, I don't see the advantage to dong it. I never have a problem with inserts and adhesive and unless the insert is off, everything will line up. don't get me wrong now, do whatever floats your boat but babs is a new guy and this might be the only way he now knows to set up his arrows.

Remember not trying to offend anyone.

[SERGIO VENNERI]

I have said this before, i have had both in the past. The hammer swaged such as was done by RJ's does not produce as smooth a taper, nor as long as spin swaging. also the hammer swaging also forms a swelling right at the back of the swage making it difficult to correctly mount a broadhead. I own a spin swager and have had one for 30+ years. Paul Schafer Spin swaged his arrows with a swager he got from me. I can also double Swage my arrows, that is insert ie: a 2" 1918 in side a 2117 and swage  them both together for strength. i hope this clears this up and of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

[Barney]

I've used the spin swagged shafts before and had no problems.

What's it cost now to get a dozen done?

[babs]

ok I see whay you mean now. I use screw in broadheads so I dont think I will go that route. I always check my broadhead allignment anyhow, I just bought some 2117 so I'll see if I like them first and maybe if I like them I have more options for broadheads in the future