Bare shaft test with a wrap on??

[Rigs]

Greetings All,

A while back I posted on wanting to try some carbons.  Well I've got a few to monkey with and the thought crossed my mind, do I bare shaft with the wrap on?  To me, it kinda makes sense as it would get the arrow as close as I can to what it would be without feather fletching.

Thanks in advace.

Happy hunting,
Jason

[stevewills]

i test with mine on or painters tape...i kinda try to match weight of what my wrap and feathers all weigh

[BobCo 1965]

The wrap will make an effect. How much? Probably not much.

Personally, if I was planning on using a wrap, then I would bareshaft tune with one on.

It would almost be the same as asking if it is ok to bareshaft tune with a tip weight that is different then what you are planning to use.

[saumensch]

Yes, put a wrap on (or something similar).
Just yesterday ive had this experience first hand. Without the wrap the bareshaft was flying perfectly, with the wrap (wich i intend to use) they showed slightly stiff.

[Rick Richard]

I bareshaft with the shaft being as close to what I plan on using i.e. wrap, flecthing cut to quil and etc..

[JamesKerr]

I don't bareshaft with a wrap on and get my arrows just slightly weak as the wrap and fletching will stiffen up the shaft just a bit.

[Shan]

I don't bareshaft with a wrap on and get my arrows just slightly weak as the wrap and fletching will stiffen up the shaft just a bit.

that's a good idea. If you end up having to cut the shafts and you have the wraps on then you'll have to cut the wraps too and then possibly not have the length you wanted..... just a thought

[Rigs]

Thanks Guys,

Looks like I'm gonna get some wraps.  I did find out that for tuning purposes, you can hold your inserts in with saran wrap and they stay in a bag target.  You can easily pull em out with a field point and trim the shaft off of the business end.  This eliminates having to cut your shaft from the nock end...

Happy huting,
Jason

[see]

all my tuning has always had different results with wraps on or off.

[Big Ed]

Wraps will change your tune.

[Shawn Leonard]

I will say this, more important than the wraps changing tune or the weight of feathers is a consistent draw length. I do not think for a second the wraps will have any effect on your final tune. Why because a 1/16th. of a difference in draw length would counter act the weight of the wrap(meaning over drawing by that much would change the effect of the stiffness the wrap makes.)Don't bother bareshafting as all. Shoot thru a piece of paper at 12-15ft. and read the tear and than make corrections. Sorry I know a wrap will stiffen the spine slightly but very few people get a consistent draw everytime so bareshaft tuning I would bet my next pay check it will not make a difference. If you are going by point of impact bareshafting most guys are not good enough shots that when the arrow impacts an inch or so different to know if that was due to the shaft or a poor release or dropping the bow arm,etc,etc. Shawn

[Austin]

Wish I had thought of this. I used wraps for the first time on my most recent batch of carbons, but didn't install them until after I bareshafted them.  Puzzled me why they were a bit on the stiff side... I worked it out with point weight, but bareshafting with wraps is an excellent idea.
AR

[JamesKerr]

Originally posted by Sequoia:
 

I don't bareshaft with a wrap on and get my arrows just slightly weak as the wrap and fletching will stiffen up the shaft just a bit.

that's a good idea. If you end up having to cut the shafts and you have the wraps on then you'll have to cut the wraps too and then possibly not have the length you wanted..... just a thought [/b]

I don't cut off from the nock end as I find it easier to use some form of hot melt and just cut off whatever I need from the point end.

[Rigs]