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Author Topic: Tick removal question  (Read 1065 times)

Offline Ian johnson

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2007, 10:42:00 PM »
all year here, mosquitos are worse
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Offline JEFF B

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2007, 10:44:00 PM »
what about in virginia
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Offline waterone

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2007, 10:55:00 PM »
Depends upon where in Virgina.

In  alot of the Southern US, you can run into ticks all year long - may actually see mosquitos on warm days, even in Virginia.

When I worked for North Carolina DOT, they gave out the Tick removal tools, some call them 'tick spoons' they work great - I keep one with me all year long if I'm out in the woods. Best tool for ticks that I've ever seen.

Oh yeah, we have something that can be worse than ticks, as long as you don't get Rocky Mountain Spooted Fever, or Tick Fever or Lyme Disease from the ticks - that's a wonderful little critter called Chiggers - they stay with you for days!!

Offline JEFF B

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2007, 10:58:00 PM »
jetersville virginia and what are chiggers?
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Offline huntsmanlance

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2007, 11:22:00 PM »
I have read on here from fellow Gangers about useing Permanone on your clothing to keep the ticks and chiggers off.

Maybe some who use it will chime in.
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Offline MadDog

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2007, 03:47:00 AM »
Lance, I use it religously, these Deep Fork bottoms are notorious for its ticks, chiggers and skeeters, the Permanone works great, I keep 2 cans on hand at all times.

Offline Smilingg

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2007, 10:36:00 AM »
Virginia has so many ticks that the ticks have ticks.

Permanone, however, does a good job of killing them (sometimes at once but other times after 30 minutes) or making them so woozy that they forget they are supposed to burrow into you. What you want is for the tick not to bite you.

The effectiveness of this product, I have found, depends on how old the can is. Cans several years old still work but not as well. That conclusion is based on a couple of hundred cans.

DEET will work too, but it stinks to high heaven, unlike Permanone which has virtually no scent (also marketed as Permethrin and Duranon.)

In the old days people used coal oil or even sulphur on their socks, pant legs, etc.

Leaving a bit of the broken off head in your skin might not expose you to Lyme disease, Rocky Mtn. Spotted Fever, and various other rotten illnesses, but it will definitely increase the chances of the bite getting infected. Trust me on this! Please, hehehehe! Leaving a source of alien bacteria under your skin in proximity to capillaries is never a good idea.

I now use special tweezers that come with a magnifying glass to make sure you have gotten every last bit of the head out.

An interesting tactic for getting the tick to back out is to take a Q Tip, dunk it in sticky soap, and rub the tick counter-clockwise. It doesn't work, but it is an interesting idea.

Chiggers (red bugs) are not a source of serious illness however they may drive you to suicide or mass murder, both of which are serious.

A solution of one part bleach to two parts water will stop the itching. MSG diluted in water will too. Nicotine from spit-on tobacco will too. A baking soda concoction helps, as do commercial products like After-Bite.

Most of that stuff will help with skeeter bites too.

Then there's Poison Ivy...

Offline Talondale

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #27 on: July 18, 2007, 10:45:00 AM »
Jeff,  chiggars are small bugs that bite through the skin and cause itchy red welts.  They seem to hide in pine needles and, like mosquitoes, can show a preference in their choice of victims.  I have sat back to back with a friend of mine, turkey hunting, and he will come home eat up with chigger bites and I will have one or none.  They are more prevelent in middle and eastern Virginia.
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Offline Jeremy

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2007, 11:44:00 AM »
I live about 5 minutes from Lyme, CT... guess where ground zero for lyme disease is?  We have the highest concentration of reported cases in the country every year.

One of my buddies spent is grad student years studying the little bloodsuckers - they can carry lots of other nasty stuff.  Cutting off their air supply (petroleum jelly) WILL cause them to regurgitate.  Trust the CDC on this one guys.

I've never used Permanone, DEET seems to work though as others have said it smells.  Anyone have an opinion on how Thermacell works against 'em?
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Offline hill boy

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #29 on: July 18, 2007, 11:50:00 AM »
message liquid soap over the tick.It will back out. tried it myself!Where I'm from the ticks will jump 10ft to reach you and if your out of reach they throw a hand full of chiggers at ya   :readit:
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Offline Rick Perry

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #30 on: July 18, 2007, 11:55:00 AM »
I think I must live in tick heaven  .......... I get em nearly every day in spring and summer  ............ I find most of em before they dig in , but occasionally one will gat attached  ......... I just pull em off !
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Offline Woodduck

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #31 on: July 18, 2007, 12:53:00 PM »
http://www.repel.com/ProductCategories/Insectrepellents/Permanone/

Use as directed, and you shouldn't have any problems. I've used it sucessfully for years...no problems.
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Offline tasaman

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #32 on: July 22, 2007, 11:50:00 PM »
That Permethrin aka Permanone is highly toxic. It says right on the can not to apply to your skin. You put it on your clothes and then hang them out to dry for a few days. In the military where we go that has a lot of critters you have no idea if they are dangerous or not, it comes in real handy. Personally, I don't like to use either but if you must, might as well get the good stuff eh?
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Offline KyGal

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Re: Tick removal question
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2007, 10:19:00 AM »
I've used Permethrin since 1989. Spray it on your clothes ONLY.

You boys in Virginia really have the bugs. I used to hunt the Eastern Shore (sportsman's heaven really) and my lord did they have ticks! I got my dogs screened for blood donation one year and they wouldn't take any of the 3. They each tested positive for 2 tick borne diseases from a menu of Rocky Mountain fever, erlichiosis and Lyme's! The Kentucky vet was VERY interested in where they had been, and not at all surprised that they had been to the shore.

I guess it is the price you pay for the piney woods and saltwater. I love it.

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