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Author Topic: Ashby tuning?  (Read 317 times)

Offline Ground Hunter

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Re: Ashby tuning?
« Reply #20 on: December 29, 2011, 11:56:00 AM »
I think we have once again, moved into the what's fastest, what's extreme, nitpicking nonsense that consumes the other modern equipment.  Every time someone "experiments" with something folks try to turn it into a "Law."  Ashby did some great work - its no "Law of Traditional archery".  If you are shooting a 300+ grain head out of a 40-45 lbs bow, I hope you are doing it from a tree and shooting straight down.  Maybe the  "Law of Gravity" will help you then.  At least the arrow will be pointed in the right direction.

Offline Jason R. Wesbrock

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Re: Ashby tuning?
« Reply #21 on: December 29, 2011, 12:50:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Terry Green:

Don't get sucked into 'paralysis by analysis' !!!
Absolutely!

When I ask someone for the time, I'm not interested in them trying to look smart by launching into a 15-minute lecture on how astronomical events determine the length of our days. Just tell me it's a quarter to noon.

Offline JamesKerr

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Re: Ashby tuning?
« Reply #22 on: December 29, 2011, 07:07:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Troy Breeding:
I think too many people that read Eds study feel he is trying to say his work is the only way to go or that he has designed the ultament arrow that will kill on any shot placement.

This is totally the wrong way to look at his study.

What he is trying to show is that from time to time even the best archer can have one of those "oh crap" shots.

Yes, just about all his studies have been done using extreme heavy boned animals. Breaking the thresh hole on penetration in bone is what he has been working for. For someone to say you don't need all this for deer or other game in the US has never had one of the "oh crap" shots that hit the heavier boned areas like shoulder, hip, or even the spine and watched the animal run away with 95% of the arrow sticking out.

Even what he says on broadhead choice has years of testing to back it up when it comes to hitting bone. Everyone knows that if the shot is placed in the right spot even a head with mechincal blades will do the job. If not you wouldn't see them on the market.

In short, read the full study with an open mind and use what you can to help you advance. But, don't overlook what might be an aid just because your buddy says it want work. Take the time to do your own testing and take from the study what helps you.

Troy
I agree 100 percent. I set up my arrows for maximum penetration except for one thing. I use a 3 blade bh.
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Offline Ragnarok Forge

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Re: Ashby tuning?
« Reply #23 on: December 29, 2011, 07:16:00 PM »
The main messages I hear in the Ashby reports are, 1st get perfect arrow flight, then a razor sharp head, then optimize with multiple arrow factors.   Optimize is third on his list.  I use optimized EFOC arrow with 400 grains up front.  So do my wife and daughter.  They hunt elk with 40 lb bows using optimized EFOC arrows.  I do not worry about penetration for either of them.  I focus on getting them close enough to hit the sweet spot.  That is what really matters!
Clay Walker
Skill is not born into anyone.  It is earned thru hard work and perseverance.

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