The company that sent them to me agreed to have me send back the 11 arrows, nocks, and inserts and they will refund the purchase, after that is done (already sent them back, out about 11 bucks for shipping, plus whatever the shipping back to me is) I will have my very own set of traditional arrows! In the meantime I have 1 arrow that is over spined, going to try and make a flu flu out of it for fun! I am using my grandfathers Hawkeye recurve, recently bought a great northern bow quiver, will get some pics up after I receive the arrows and get them all done up!