thanks, Bjorn not trying to argue, but the hogs have moved in to a lease I am in in such numbers it has really affected our deer hunting, I saw over 60 one afternoon out of a stand, and they are like a dang vacume machine sucking up anything and everything edible. It is good for pig huntin, but really affected our deer huntin, i just changed up and started stalkin pigs, not alot of deer meat in the freezer though.. the higher areas around our lease have better numbers of deer than normal I assume, due to this...